Leveraging Adversity to Build a Superstar Brand with Jenna Faggart
My guest today is so inspirational, and also very likely someone you may know if you are at all on TikTok or a fan of the show Dancing with Myself.
Jenna Faggart is a boutique owner of 3 Jems Boutique, a part time TikToker where she shares positive and inspirational videos of her life, her family with 3 adorable little boys, and most recently is a contestant on the NBC show “Dancing with Myself”.
She’s a true example of pivoting in times of challenge, and using adversity to turn into an advantage. We were all hit pretty hard by the pandemic and when Jenna’s boutique had to close their doors, she and her sisters were faced with the challenge of pivoting to online sales. The results of taking failure out of the equation has resulted in unbelievable success, connections, and a lot of fun.
[2:27] – Jenna shares how she became a contestant on Dancing with Myself because of TikTok.
[4:49] – Stepping up to new levels of visibility is constant.
[6:37] – It’s not a matter of if, it’s a matter of when.
[7:47] – Jenna and her sisters opened two boutiques a couple of years before the pandemic.
[9:04] – When the boutique store-fronts had to close their doors, they had to pivot online.
[10:10] – Jenna describes the stress and emotions around closing their doors.
[12:33] – Sales online were very low. Jenna and her sisters went to social media.
[14:10] – When you have a small business, you feel like you have to keep up with all forms of social media all the time. But Jenna felt that TikTok was the best one for her.
[15:46] – It had never crossed her mind that the boutique’s reach could be global until she saw it happening on TikTok.
[17:36] – They’ve always had Instagram and Facebook, but TikTok was a much different type of social media platform.
[19:10] – If you take failure out of the equation, you will find a way to succeed.
[20:32] – Stop focusing on the product itself. You are what make your business special.
[21:47] – Social media for Jenna has been fun and entertaining.
[23:13] – Take the social media platform and make it work for you, consistently.
[24:22] – There are some posts that are planned, but for the most part, Jenna uses TikTok spontaneously.
[25:49] – Perfect doesn’t work. You will constantly learn what works and what doesn’t work.
[26:41] – Collaboration is not only beneficial but it is so fun.
[27:06] – You will never know the trends until they start to happen. Take everything as it comes. Don’t fight against it.
[28:17] – Smile and dance through the chaos.
[29:18] – What would Jenna say to herself if she could go back in time?
Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to she sells radio. My guest today is so inspirational and also very likely someone that you may already know if you are on TikTok or a fan of the show, dancing with myself, Jenna Fager is a boutique owner of three gems, boutique. She’s a mega talker, uh, where she shares positive and inspirational videos of her life. Her family, three of the most adorable little boys who I just fell in love with while I was watching her videos. And most recently was also a, a contestant on the NBC show, dancing with myself, uh, which is so cool. And I think she’s just a true example of pivoting in times of challenge and using adversity to really turn into an amazing advantage in your life. And so, Jenna, I’m so excited to have you here. I can’t wait to learn from you and welcome to she sell’s radio.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Hi, thank you for having me. I’m so excited. I can’t wait to get started.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Oh my gosh. I know. I know. And you know, you and I were laughing a little bit in the pre-chat cuz I was, you know, researching you and doing my prep for the interview. And I was like, I know nothing about pop culture. I’m the last person in the world. You ever wanna ask anything? But I was like, okay, this one has an end, like just got featured on NBC. Like this is a big deal. So I actually, I wanna talk all about, you know, social media and how you pivoted, um, during the pandemic to create amazing success for yourself. But first I just wanna touch on. So you were just a contestant on the show, dancing with myself. How did that come about? Like, what was I’m so curious what that is like for you and how that came about.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
It also came from TikTok like,
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Oh my, okay. I do have to get on TikTok.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
They, yes. They found me on TikTok. The show, the whole idea of the show is real people who love to dance like in their everyday life throughout the like, not technically supposed to be like professional dancers. Um, and so they were finding people, a lot of people like myself on TikTok, posting dances, having fun. Um, so I got brought in and it was, it was an amazing experience. It was overwhelming, but it was so much fun. I got to talk to Shakira.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Ah, I mean,
Speaker 2 (02:14):
And Rick, Jon, I gotta talk to Nick Jonas. It was so cool.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
<laugh> oh my gosh. What was that like for you when you found out it had happened? Cause I think
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I thought it was a scam. I didn’t did, did you really? It was real. They, I literally emailed back and I was like, is this a scam?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
<laugh> oh my God, what did they say?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I had never like it, this was the first season of the show. And like, I just got a random email out of nowhere about a new show on NBC and I’m like, mm, are you really, did you, did you mean to email me, like in this real life, this is scam and they, like, they thought it was funny, but they’re like, no, really? Like it’s a new show. It’s like Shakira is gonna be one of the judges, Nick Jonas. Uh Lizza Koshi and they were just like telling me all about it and I think, okay, well if it’s real, then yes, I’m in
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Speaker 2 (03:09):
My husband panicked though. I mean, he went into full, he thought it was like one of those like shows where you would have to be gone for like two months at a time to like film the whole season. And I thought he was gonna die when I got contacted about it. He’s like, you can’t leave us for a month.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I was like, well, first of all, I dunno any details yet? So like I’m not shutting it down yet. If it comes to that, like, we’ll see, we will figure it out.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Speaker 1 (03:41):
You know, I’m just curious with that. You know, one of the things that I think all of our listeners consistently work on is stepping up to new levels of visibility and getting real and for some people, right. It’s like their first TikTok or their first Instagram live or putting themselves out there for a keynote. What was that like for you? Cuz that’s, I’m imagining I’m, I’m just guessing that’s the biggest stage you’ve been on so far and correct me if I’m wrong, but what was it like to overcome? Was there fear involved in that? Were there a lot of nerves? Like how did you play the brain game with that?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
There were definitely nerves. Um, I am really bad and I call it mom brain, obviously I’m really bad about walking into a room and forgetting why I walked in there. And that happened to me on stage in the third round where it was like the door opened and I knew the dance, I had just practiced it with the door shut and the door opened and it went, it was just gone. Like it was not in my brain anymore. Uh, so I do it like I do, I have moments like that, but I have also been, I was a cheerleader my whole life. And then even at NC state, I cheered in college. So I have been like cheering at football games when there’s just tons of people in the stands and in front of all those people. So I’ve kind of been paired for it. Yeah. Um, honestly I think that’s the only way is just I’ve done it for so long that it wasn’t as scary for me as it would be for someone who’s never been on a stage mm-hmm <affirmative> or like I did competition cheer and all of that. Um, so it really, it wasn’t as bad just because of my background.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah. Yeah. Well, what did you do in that moment where the door opened and you felt like you forgot your dance? I
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Just down, I just bounced like smiling, clapping, pretend anything. Like I knew what I was doing, but I wasn’t doing the dance.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Everything, but the dance <laugh>
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Well, and I think it’s, it’s helpful to hear that too, cuz I think at some point, like for most of us, it’s not a matter of if it’s a matter of when, like you’re gonna have one of those higher stakes moments where you gotta show up and you’re gonna give it your all and then suddenly your brain is like, it just feels like it’s gone. So in that moment, what I’m hearing from you is improvise, still bring the energy and you gotta remember like no one else knows what you’re supposed to be doing except for you. Right? So most people aren’t gonna be able to, to tell
Speaker 2 (06:06):
If you keep a smile on your face, they have no idea you’re panicking. <laugh> just frozen there. They don’t know. Nobody knows what you,
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Oh my gosh. So, well again, congratulations. That’s so fun. Um, and I actually will go check out your for you. I will become a pop culture person for one night. Yes. And I’ll go check out the episode. I love that. So, so take us back though. This is where I think I’m so excited to learn from you about how you’ve learned to pivot in times of challenge. And you’re the owner of a super successful boutique with your two sisters right here in North Carolina. So I lo I know that we have that in common. Um, but take us back to like how you started the boutique and then what happened when the pandemic hit?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Okay. So we started the boutique, um, a couple years before the pandemic. Um, we did great on a local level. We had two boutiques, one opened about a year and a half after the first. Um, and we, we did great as far as the storefront and foot traffic and just day to day sales were great. We opened it. Um, we always wanted to do something together. Me and my sisters, my youngest sister. Who’s actually like hiding over here in the corner. <laugh>
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Hi. Hi. Hi sister <laugh>.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
She was working in Charlotte at the time and she was making the commute in and outta Charlotte and she hated the commute and it kind of like pushed us into, okay, well, like we’re not getting any younger. If we’re gonna do this, we need to go all in and just do it and go for it. And that was what pushed us into opening the boutique. And then when the pandemic hit and we were forced to close the doors at that time, we might would have like maybe three to four online sales for the whole week. Like, and it was like in-store pickups. It was still local customers who might just purchase online. Cause it was just a little bit more convenient than coming in the store. Yeah. And when we had to close the doors, we realized like, okay, the only way we’re gonna survive is if we move it all online, like if we start pushing everything online is not what we were used to, but we know there’s a lot of boutiques out there whose primary source of sales is online. Sure.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
And actually I wanna pause you super quick there. And I just wanna, I wanna, because what you’re about to share is super important and I wanna go a little bit deeper into what you just said first, which is we were forced, we were forced to close our doors and I wanna know a little bit, what was that like? Not to like take you back into the pain, but I just like, like tell it, cuz you kinda said like, yeah, we closed our doors in and we pivoted online, but I know there was more than that. So what was like there’s
Speaker 2 (08:48):
This, uh, there was a lot of sleepless nights. There was a lot of like panic, a lot of tears. It was, it was this feeling of like, are we going to drown or are we going to make it like it? We had no idea, obviously what was gonna happen. We had no idea how long, because it was basically like, if you’re not essential, you have to close your doors. But there was no like two weeks. Is this a month? Is this two months? Like how we had no idea when we would be able to open again, we just, I mean, it was straight up panic. Like we were looking into um, like the PPP. Yeah. The paycheck protection plan, like trying to just have a little bit of a safety net if we didn’t have any income for a month for all of our employees and everyone that worked with us, um, it was just a really like sinking, like defeated feeling like just there was, we felt like there was nothing that we could do about it cuz we had to close because they told us we had to close. Like we couldn’t <laugh>
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Couldn’t go against the rules and stay open. And even if we did stay open at that point, everyone was quarantined. So even if we tried to break the rules and stay open, nobody was out and about just like shopping at boutiques, everybody was staying at home unless it was groceries or to, and from like an essential job working at a, as a nurse or something.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Right. And was part of you, was there any part of you that was tempted to quit at that point? Like did you guys, did you talk about that or
Speaker 2 (10:26):
No? Uh, that never really. That was never an option quitting giving up. That was, that was not on our radar. It was just a, how are we gonna save ourselves?
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Ah, well I think what you said there is, and in a moment I want you to talk about how you started transitioning online. But I think what you said there is so important that in those moments and what I want the listeners to take from this is like, and this is what I’m taking from this in those moments where it feels like suddenly the faucet is shut off and everything you thought was gonna happen is no longer happening. And it’s almost like that back against the wall type of feeling, right? Yes. The, for quitting wasn’t even there, it was like, no, how are we gonna rise above? What are we gonna do differently? And so I wanna just take a moment for that. Cause I think that’s so important for everyone to take away from what you just shared of. You’ll always get answers to the questions you ask. So why not ask the question of how can we come through this? How can we rise above? So, so keep going and, and talk. So you said you were getting three to four online sales a week at that point. So you’re like, okay clearly that’s not gonna cut it right. If we wanna transition online, but what, what, what happened from there?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Well, so our first step, because at that time we did have Instagram. We hadn’t really broke into TikTok yet we had Instagram and our first step was what we started doing is we would take turns, driving out to the boutique, grabbing just piles of clothes, bringing it home and doing trial sessions at home with our kids, like acting crazy in the background and try like just trying to do anything we could to still show like we’re, we’re still online. We still have clothes. It’s still cute stuff. All of our clothes turned into like loungewear. <laugh> like we started ordering stuff that people could wear at home because everyone was stuck at home. So we got cute lounge sets and cute, uh, just comfy t-shirts anything that people would want while they’re stuck at home for a month. Um, so that was where it started. And I actually, I refused when I first heard about TikTok, I refused to download it.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I was kind of like you, I was like, I am not doing this. This is too much. <laugh> it’s too much social media. I can’t do another social media. We had like before we closed the doors, we had had some of our younger high school part-time employees create us a page. They made us a TikTok page. They posted a few TikTok for us. I didn’t even know how to work the app at that at that time. Yeah. And that was kind of how like we got started is cuz we felt like we had to have one as a business. Cause you feel like you have to keep up with all aspects of social media when you have a small business. And when I got stuck at home and I got bored, I found myself on TikTok and it was like, I started making, I started realizing how fun it was and it genuinely just fit my personality, the dance trends.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I love to dance. I’ve always been a cheerleader. The, there were so many like fashion tos, like there was just so much on there. There was tons of comedy. I love to pick on my husband. Like it very much like fit who I am as a person. So I started doing it myself, even though I had refused for about two months before and I had a video go viral within the first two weeks of posting it on my own. It hit like 2 million views. I had on a shirt from three gyms and I realized the power that was in TikTok in that moment. And I could have sold probably like 10,000 of this one shirt. Every single comment was okay, but where’d you get your shirt? Where did you get your shirt? Wow. Oh my God. When I realized the power of that, I was like, oh my God, this, this is what I’ve gotta do.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
It’s reaching all across the us. Like it’s not just our local community that like knows about us. Like we had people in Canada begging for shipping. We have people in Australia, like it was going globally and it had never even crossed my mind that we could reach globally until to wow. And so that, that post honestly is kind of what changed my world into realizing what I had stepped into and what I could do with it. Yeah. And I just, even, I would still, when I would bring home these piles of clothes for the store, I wouldn’t necessarily be making like a TikTok about the clothes. I would just be wearing them and doing my thing, just dancing and having fun or playing a prank on my husband or, and just having it on if the video, I mean, within the first I’m trying to think within the first like six months, I had gotten up to 300,000 followers and it was like, I obviously every video doesn’t go viral, but it’s like every time I would hit a viral video, I would get a wave of new followers.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Mm-hmm <affirmative> and then they would find out about our family business. And it’s amazing too. How much people love supporting a small family business over these huge corporations. Uh, so when it’s like, you can actually see the people, the family, my sisters, I got on board. Um, when you can see the family behind the business versus just like three Jim’s boutique, like some Instagram pictures, that’s what changed the world for us? Um, just getting it out there and the way that TikTok works, it, it just pushed it out to like a whole new world and we’ve just kept it, kept it rolling ever since then, honestly. Oh
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Gosh. Oh my gosh. You have me like finally open mind. Doesn’t get someone open mind. I don’t know. What does
Speaker 2 (16:32):
It’s crazy though. Cause even like, cause we’ve always been on Instagram, like we’ve always had social media. We’ve always had Facebook, but when you make a post on Instagram, the people that see it are the people that follow you. Like it doesn’t shoot it out to anyone in the world. Whereas obviously you can make a TAC post and it can only like be seen by like your followers or it can have like lower views, but you never know, you just keep posting and then eventually something just like flies out to everyone and
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Speaker 2 (17:08):
It’s all spiraled from there.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Well, and I think going to like, so what I wanna take from that and I, it, I think something to it’s so important to note is like, you still took the action so we can say like, yes, TikTok is amazing and yes, TikTok did it, but it’s like, no, like you, at the end of the day, you’re the one who did it and took the action and took the initiative in that moment. And so what would you say to someone who is in a position if you kind of take yourself back to like before things took off with TikTok and you were sitting there like, you know, we had to close our doors. I don’t know what’s gonna happen next. Um, what did you need to know at that point that somebody else who’s maybe in a position where they feel like their back is against a wall, they don’t know how they’re gonna pivot from here. They don’t know how they’re gonna have the future. They wanted, like what advice did you need to hear at that time that could maybe be helpful to somebody else in that same type of position.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Just that failure is not an option. It’s just, it’s just, if you take that off of the table altogether, you will find a way to succeed. If you take failure out of the equation, like we’re not gonna fail. We just gotta figure out how we’re not gonna fail
Speaker 1 (18:20):
<laugh> yeah. Then,
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Then you can get there and you can make it happen. Um,
Speaker 1 (18:26):
That’s awesome. That’s awesome. Cause it’s we, we spend so much mental energy sometimes obsessing over things. What if this happens? What if that, if you, I love what you said, just take it off the table. They don’t even have to think about it. Okay. Now we’re only gonna focus on how there’s a way. So that was, that was brilliant. That spoke to me. Um, tell us about, so obviously we can’t have you on the show and not talk about social media. And I would, part of this is like very selfish. Elise gets coached on social media by Jenna. So I’m really excited. <laugh> <laugh>
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yes, I I’m here for it.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
<laugh> but I think all of our listeners are gonna wanna know too. So you already said one thing that I thought was so important, which was showing the people behind the business. So, and I think for anyone, regardless of who that is, right? We’ve got financial advisors listening. We’ve got small business owners, we’ve got sales people. So show talk to us. I wanna go into a few of your tips, but let’s talk first about showing more of like real life behind the brand. How do you do that? What are some tips? How do, because your stuff is so authentic and so fun. Like I just fell in love with this morning while I was prepping. Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah. People ask me that all the time and I tell them all the time, stop focusing on the actual product. Okay. Like for us when it comes to clothes, yes, we have cute clothes. Is there a gazillion, other boutiques that have cute clothes? Yes, absolutely. There are cute clothes that you can find anywhere honestly. But what we bring is the family and the fun and all of that. It’s more about being yourself, showing who you are, having fun with it. And people want that feeling. They want to have fun. They want to see the joy behind it. They want to be a part of something more than just like, oh, here’s another cute bodysuit. Like yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Speaker 2 (20:18):
It’s just, and TikTok. It’s so much, it’s so different than Instagram is just a pretty picture, which now they have reals. So reals do kind of show that a little bit more, but on TikTok you can see their humor. You can see if someone is sarcastic and funny and it’s the personality too, that brings people in. Like I do post on the three gyms TikTok more about like specific clothes. But my page is mostly just having fun and dancing right now. I’m on this whole wave of trends for the past 48 hours of doing this ridiculous trend where I like arch my back, trying to get my husband to agree to a fourth baby. But <laugh>, it’s mostly just fun and humor and people want, people want to watch something that like makes them feel better. Not like not just another like pretty outfit. They just wanna laugh and have fun with you.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Oh my gosh. I love that. And if it, you know, if it let’s say, maybe someone’s like, okay, this doesn’t come naturally. Right? Like they’re hearing you talk. And they’re like, okay. And she’s a cheerleader. She was a cheerleader. Like she loves dancing. Right. So this feels, what if it doesn’t feel like it comes so naturally for people? What would you say to start like just to get started? I,
Speaker 2 (21:41):
So the way that, the way that the whole TikTok works is there’s like different worlds to it. There’s different. You have to like find your thing. It may not be dancing. It may not be like comedy, but you there’s so many sides to TikTok. Yeah. That you can find what you’re comfortable with and find what showcases you as a person. If you don’t dance. There’s so many people that I follow that I have never once saw a dancing video of them, find the trends and like tweak it to make it fit you and just have fun with it.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Mm, okay. Okay.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
And be, be consistent. Consistency is key. That is another very important thing with social media is regularly posting regularly interacting, staying like posting every day, basically.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
<laugh> I was just gonna ask you, so for you consist, do you have like a set time? You do it every day or is it more like, just by the end of the day? I need to make sure I’ve done it
Speaker 2 (22:42):
By the end of the day. I need to make sure I’ve done it. Yeah. It’s cause sometimes I, I usually, we usually make a few at work and I’ll just post ’em once I’ve made ’em mm-hmm <affirmative> sometimes I’ll get home and make something with my husband and then I’ll post that. Um, but consistency is really important.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Yeah. Oh for sure. And then do you have, so we’re gonna get like nitty gritty tactical here because I think sometimes people think I’ve gotta have a whole like marketing team and marketing calendar and I’ve gotta know what I’m gonna talk about, like weeks in advance. So do you have topics planned out for days and weeks or is it more like off the cuff? Like you’re sharing from the part we,
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Um, no, we are just like winging it.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
We’re winging it. No, we do have, so like we have ideas of like right now we are working on, um, like a, a back to school collection for teachers mm-hmm <affirmative> oh, that’s fine. I have done so I cause of TikTok, I’ve actually made friends through the app that also have huge followings and all of my friends have done their own collections. Like we let them pick out their clothes, their style, everything. And like next week one we are doing, um, not this Wednesday, but next one of my friends who is a Disney creator, like her whole, she lives in Orlando. Her whole content is featured on Disney. So we’re doing a collection with her and it’s very like Disney princess and
Speaker 1 (24:07):
It, oh my gosh, that’s fine.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
It’s the cutest stuff ever. Um, but we, so we do plan ahead some, uh, we honestly, honestly we need more help
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Like we do it all pretty much. And we do have some part-time employees. We do have a store manager, like outside of us as the sisters. Um, it’s just, it’s hard. <laugh>, it’s hard to find.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Oh man. But you know what, what I love about what you said, and I think we can all like take a breath, is that some of it you’re still winging and that’s like, that’s so refreshing. That’s so refreshing to say like, okay, it doesn’t have to be perfect. It doesn’t have to be, cuz I don’t think that works. I don’t think perfect works anyway. No, uh, people,
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Well, and that’s what we’re learning new stuff all the time. Like we’re, we’re constantly learning like what works, what doesn’t work. Uh, we’re constantly searching for new ways. Just like these collections have happened only in the last, like we started, uh, three or four months ago. I’m trying to think when the first one was, it might have been closer to like five or six months, but it was just a whole new strategy of okay. Like we’re reaching our people now let’s reach my friends, my friends, people like right. Doing the collections with them and them pushing it. And it’s, it reached a whole new market for us again. So, and it was something I literally just sat there and was like, oh, Hey Bonnie, do you wanna do a collection?
Speaker 1 (25:36):
<laugh> like <laugh> but it’s the power of collaboration, right? Yes,
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Yeah. The power of getting in front of other people’s audiences. What do you see? I wanna ask you just one or two more questions and then we’re gonna wrap. This is so fun. Um, what do you see coming next? Whether it’s like in TikTok specifically or in the world of social? I always like asking people who are very plugged in. Do you see a certain trend? We should be aware of something we should be thinking about as we go into next year. What do you see coming? Um,
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Honestly I never know the trends until they are here. <laugh> I never that’s. That is one of the aspects that I am completely winging it. Um, but no, I just it’s always just take everything as it comes. Like when the trends happen, roll with them, like don’t fight against it. I am so glad I broke down and I just downloaded the app to begin with because I wasn’t going to, um, and it’s one of those things that like, it may be new and it may be scary and different. I mean, I’ve even struggled now because I’m so used to posting on TikTok to do reels because it’s like, well, do I just like, do I make new ones in the reels? Do I just like drop them over?
Speaker 1 (26:50):
<laugh> yeah. But
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yeah, it’s just, just keep, basically keeping up with everything that’s thrown at you.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Mm well it’s and, and here’s what I’m taking from that, which is so good is like you can literally just be present with what is and be successful and roll with the punches. And I know that’s kind of one of the things you talk about, like dancing through the chaos, which I think has female business owners as fellow mom, it’s like smile and dance through the chaos and you’ll find a way, right.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
It’s the only way it’s the only way you can survive. <laugh> that’s pretty much pretend like everything’s wonderful and
Speaker 1 (27:29):
It, oh my gosh. <laugh>
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Dance through the chaos
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Dance through the chaos. I love it. Well that very, that way may very well be your answer to my last question, but I wanna ask, um, final question and then I’ll, I want you to tell everyone where they can connect with you, Jenna. So what would you say to your younger self? Let’s say to like, I don’t know, early twenties, Jenna, who maybe was, you know, had aspirations, had big dreams, had no idea that this was coming for her. What of advice would give to your younger self earlier on your path?
Speaker 2 (28:03):
So something I’ve always lived by. It’s just never give up. Even when it gets hard. If you don’t give up, you can always find a way to push through no matter how hard it gets it’s there is always, there’s always a way to get through the hard times.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah. Oh, so good. So good. Um, Jenna, tell everyone where they can connect with you.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
So we are three gym’s boutique on Instagram and on TikTok. And that is the number three gyms with the J J E M S boutique.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Awesome. Awesome. And then if they wanna connect with your TikTok it’s at Jenna and her gens, right?
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Yes. Jenna and her gens.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Amazing, amazing. Jenna. This was so fun. I, um, I mean the biggest thing I’m taking away is like, failure’s not an option aside from all the great social media tips and dancing <laugh> like failure is not an option. I think every single one of our listeners can resonate with that and can take that and use that as, um, just a mindset shift for how they pivot through unexpected times of life. So thank you so much for coming on today and for sharing your energy, your brilliance, and, um, thank
Speaker 2 (29:11):
You for having me.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. It was so fun. And to you, my listener go connect with Jenna she’s. I mean, I was gonna say she’s a gem. I was like, gosh, that’s so corny, but it’s true. It’s so go connect with her online, give her some love. Let her know you connected with her, um, from she sells radio and I will see you on our next episode of she sells radio bye for now.