Create Permanent Freedom From Limiting Beliefs w/ Joel Bein

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Welcome to She Sells Radio I am personally very excited for today’s

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conversation because if you have followed me for any amount of time you know I love talking about Quantum leaps

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and any time in my sales in my life in my business when I have Quantum leaped

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and there have been many times when I’ve been stuck too so that’s definitely part of the story but anytime I’ve Quantum

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leaped it has not been from working harder it has not been from just out

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hustling in fact those were the activities and the ways of being where I stayed stuck um when I have truly

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Quantum leave it has been from going inside and learning how to rewire and

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shift the subconscious programming that was keeping me stuck at a certain level

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to start actually seeing and believing that what I wanted was possible and so

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what I really now teach and believe is that your results will never supersede your identity and so today we get to go

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in depth with an expert in reprogramming the subconscious mind and how you remove

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limiting beliefs that could have persisted for most of your life so my guest today is Joel Bine he’s the

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founder of human Liberation and he shares a revolutionary approach to removing negative beliefs from the

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subconscious mind which I’m very excited to hear about freeing people from their unwanted thoughts and emotions so Joel

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welcome so much to the podcast I am very excited to dive in with you today and I’m ready to take notes because I know

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that I’m going to learn so much too so thank you for being here my pleasure I’m excited to be here amazing so you know

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we get we get a lot of uh reach outs for the show and when I and and most of them

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I’m like nah you know it’s just it’s not a fit or we don’t have bandwidth when I saw what you were doing and more about

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your work I was like yes we need to have you on because this is the one thing that if people can learn how to do it

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will will transform not just their results but their I I want to hear your

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thoughts on this too but their peace and their happiness and their enjoyment of the process so um so I’m so excited to

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to hear more from you and I know that anyone who has something that they teach and their passionate about they usually

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have some sort of a backstory where they had to learn it for themselves or they had to overcome challenges in order to

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um in order to create this methodology so would you share just a little bit more about your personal growth story

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and what even LED you down this path of wanting to learn how to overcome limiting beliefs and then teaching so

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many other people how to do so yeah absolutely I mean it’s funny my

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personal development story started early I think age 1819 I just found myself

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starting to gravitate towards podcasts about parenting philosophy and

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psychology and thinking about how it is how is it that children are raised in

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this culture right and thinking about how how can we create a healthy world

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for adults by focusing on the fundamentals the fundamentals are how children are raised

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right we we build these habits that that start in childhood I’ve always been interested in fundamentals I’m a I’m a

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classically trained musician very passionate about that as well and so you need to know your your scales you need

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to know your fundamentals you need to know the basics so I’m I’ve always been interested in in the fundamentals and

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getting to the root of things to actually solve the problem and actually build healthy habits and healthy ways of

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being so that’s one place that really started for me you know coming and coming out of a you know less than ideal

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childhood for sure and having you know some chaos and dysfunction and just not

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really being my authentic self not really being nurtured you know of course because of my parents own limitations

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and their own beliefs and their own unprocessed childhoods and so I started gravitating getting towards that that

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deep stuff from a young age and then doing a lot of different personal development throughout my 20s and and

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getting to know who I actually am and then in my 30s really beginning to apply

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that knowledge and and and sharing that authentic self with the world and that’s really when I came across in my early

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30s the this method that I’m now sharing with the world which has been the most powerful tool I’ve come across to

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actually to actually let go at the root of these these conditioned beliefs that

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we’re you know as kids were trying to navigate our environments we’re trying to get connection and love and safety

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and so forth and so we create stories to to make sense of things and and get those needs met but then they become

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baggage um they become they get in the way they become clutter as we as we move

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into adulthood so it’s it’s actually getting to that route and and and then

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you can free yourself fully so that’s that’s kind of the high level uh backstory wow yeah well there’s there’s

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a lot of places we could go with that and um something that we’ll talk today a fair amount about money uh if you’re

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game for it our listeners are here and they’re you know they’re either in sales or they’re entrepreneurs so they they

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want to learn how to grow their money and um well you know we’ll talk money blocks too but one of the things that

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really transformed my life was when I I understood that the reason why I was

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wanting more money wasn’t so much to have this like stack of paper sitting

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there because money on its own without any sort of emotional impact doesn’t really do anything for us it was it was

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the freedom that I thought it would create and it and to me surface level it’s like well yes it creates time and

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money freedom and that’s powerful but at a deeper level what I’ve really come to understand and I’d love to hear your

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your perspective on this we’ll go more into your story and your methodology too but the deepest Freedom that I I

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personally feel like we’re seeking is is the freedom to be fully ourselves like when we’re there when we feel that that

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to me is when everything unlocks so you spoke about being your authentic self

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and I think that that phrase I know for many years I would hear it thr I was like you know it’s it’s sounded like a

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t-shirt something nice to say but I didn’t really think it had a lot of value I was like how’s that going to make me help more help me make more

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money I don’t really see a lot of value in it and being someone who’s who’s been

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on this path and continues to be on this path there’s amazing things that unlock when

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we actually tap back into like who were we in childhood and and um who is our

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authentic self versus the the false self right and and start to close that Gap so

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um share a little bit more about this concept of the authentic self and if someone’s listening how do they know if

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they are showing up as their authentic self or if they’re not and and what why

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do we want to why do we care right for someone who’s listening they’re like I care about the bottom line they’re at least 5 10 years ago how do they why do

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why do they care to start really showing up as their authentic self and what would change or transform in their

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business and their sales I hope that question makes sense it’s a lot of questions yeah well I like that you said

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what’s the purpose of money basically it’s the endgame I mean it’s not money for money’s sake it’s to create a

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flourishing life it’s to create freedom is to have certain needs met so that you can be happy like what’s life for it’s

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to be happy right and I see happiness as how many of our needs can we get met at the highest level right so we have a

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need for security and freedom and we also have needs for for connection and

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we have a need to be seen right so it’s funny I I was listening to this podcast

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and there’s this this guy who works with he’s worked with billionaires throughout

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his career and he was giving this he was relaying the fact that there are many

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many billionaires people who have1 billion dollar who wish they had two billion do and the reason that that is

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is because they have inner inner things that they haven’t solved right it’s the

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inner game and at the end of the day you could have all the money in the world but what’s what’s the point of

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life right so if you’re if you’re lonely if you’re not being seen for who you are if you’re not expressing who you are

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then you’re not going to be flourishing right so if you zoom out and say how do I create a true you know Michael

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ellsburg and Brian Franklin their book The Last safe investment they talk about true wealth true wealth it’s not just

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Financial wealth it’s all the wealth it’s social wealth it’s it’s feeling like you can express yourself it’s

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having experiences that are meaningful all these things that that create a flourishing Abundant Life so yeah I mean

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authentic self I think if you tune in in terms of how to know if you’re being your

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false self or a true self one thing that comes to mind is just when you’re in

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you’re having you know conversations with a a close friend or a romantic

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partner like do you notice anything in your body that’s feeling guarded right you want to

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maybe this part you want to express yourself you want to say what you actually think but then

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you back yeah right because there could be some you sit on your needs you sit on

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your needs for self-expression and self assertiveness right and you you hide and

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this is I I know this very well because much of my life I’ve done this but uh

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you hide that actual self- assertiveness so that you can at least

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ostensibly create that illusion of I’m going to I’m going to stay safe and connected if I don’t actually disagree

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here or I don’t actually show up as my full self right so that’s kind of the

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one way to think about it so you said you sit on your needs right did I hear that correctly yeah that speak more I

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think this is so powerful and so important there’s there’s some follow-up questions I want to ask but I know I’ve

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had that experience many times and like I like I’ve I’ve made a I’ve grown a lot in this area and I’m still like every

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day I’m noticing ways in which I’m like oh I held back there and I wanted to say something or so I I don’t know that this

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work ever ends um but that sitting on your needs really spoke to me the way

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that you put it because that feels very clear so what does someone if they notice they’re doing

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this what do we start to do I know you’ve got a methodology and so I don’t like obviously people would want to hire

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you to go deeper in this if they want to have the full experience but can you speak a little bit to how do we start to

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unravel that way of being and and what is the the way that you approach this with clients when when they’ve maybe had

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this pattern for most of their life how do we start to feel safe to actually show up and be visible and be seen as

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our most authentic selves yeah the the discovery process of

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figuring out what beliefs the subconscious mind has is the most

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important part because I can connect with someone and we can clear any belief

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for them very rapidly the question is what’s the belief that’s causing you the

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most issues in your life in your patterns so if that’s a fear of let’s just take that same example of of

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self-expression fear fear of self assertiveness again I start with the body like okay we we have this pattern

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when you’re talk let’s just say you’re talking to your husband and you notice that you feel guarded in that moment

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okay let’s start with that now let’s connect to the body the body is feeling this guardedness

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this fear okay often I’ll ask clients if that fear or guardedness could speak

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what would it say and that gives us the chance to see this fear this feeling as a separate

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part of you so understanding that the the psyche

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is sort of a family of parts of ourselves part of me thinks this part of me feels

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this and seeing okay it’s not that I’m fearful it’s there’s this part of me

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that’s fearful and so then we can kind of have that

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perspective oh this is this part oh and that part is coming from my past

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experience right so then we begin to dialogue with the part to to understand

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what the actual beliefs are the actual root Concepts that are filtering reality so

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there could be a belief that I’m not assertive or it’s not safe

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to express myself or I’m not good enough I’m not good enough in my experience

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working with with dozens and dozens of people is the most common belief I think

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people have in the in the world so if we can actually identify the

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conceptual you know the the language that that spotlights the actual Concepts the part of you is believing then we can

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then we can work this process and and clear the belief out um but it’s it’s really starting with the body often

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times and starting what is the pattern I have now connect to that part of you and figure out what that part of you is

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believing that makes a ton of sense once you so once we connect to that part of

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us and we’re like okay I’ve got some clarity on what that part of me is believing how do we start to shift it

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because I think you speak to and I know a lot of people will teach affirmations

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visualization and um and I have a an approach that I use in my own life but I’m curious to hear from you like is

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that is that how you shift it with your clients or have you found something that’s a more powerful approach because

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there’s a lot of people listening who probably say oh I tried affirmations and it didn’t work for me I tried a vision

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board I tried manifesting and it didn’t work so what’s the what’s the Gap and is there a different or better way to clear

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those beliefs and then create because we’ve got to replace it with a different belief right so what does that look like for you when you’re working with

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clients yeah I love I love this topic uh affirmations I believe are very valuable

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but it is the case that many people struggle to gain value from them and it’s because the subconscious part is

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believing the opposite perhaps so I mean I did affirmations for years like I’m

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enough I’m enough I’m enough and I I remember doing that and it would give me this shortterm value but then I also

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remember thinking deep down that it was it was nonsense it was BS what I was

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saying because deep down I believed I’m not enough so it’s like trying to spray the

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dog dooo on the carpet with air freshener it’s like we need to actually clear out the problem and then if you

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want to add air freshener to enhance things if you want to add the affirmation to enhance things

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I think that’s great but but what I do is is is really just about the

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unlearning process it’s deprogramming it’s not focused at all on

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learning new things on New on new affirmations on reprogramming on shifting this and changing and adding

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it’s subtracting it’s unlearning it’s pulling out the weeds it’s pulling out the weeds of the

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mental Garden you pull out the weeds and then if you want to plant some new seeds that are wonderful affirmations for man

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man estation all the good things like well now we’ve cleared all this stuff that’s getting in the way so this is why

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people have the uh you know there’s like this caricature of affirmations and like

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people are turned off sometimes by affirmations and visualization because it doesn’t work

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for a lot of people because we have all these beliefs from parts of us that that are holding on and until we actually

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dialogue with the part of us that believes I’m not good enough or I’m not enough or money is evil whatever it is

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then we’re just going to keep having this oppositional energy to the

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affirmation that’s something I’ve been really thinking about in my own life lately too and and for my clients too

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it’s just this experience of like split energy which I think so many people listening if if you’re conscious and if

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you’re paying attention you may notice in your life where it’s like I want this thing and I feel this pulled towards

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this thing and I feel bad for wanting it I tell I make myself wrong I feel like I

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always have to work so hard to get there um you know I beat myself up Etc so I I

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this is not an at leas original I don’t know who said this originally but I think this is where people get it messed

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up with Law of Attraction manifestation is they think well you just sit there and you look at the vision board all day

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or you affirm all day and and it happens and and no because in life we don’t get what we want we get what we are right so

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to your point of you got to clear out the weeds first before you can plant the

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new seeds if there’s a if there’s a weed in there like you’re going to attract based on that belief based on that

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negative belief even if it’s not what you want so I I think it’s a I love the

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approach let’s talk specifically to money and money blocks um so I don’t

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know if you see this with your clients a lot of the work I do with mine and what we see with a lot of the members of the

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community is around worthiness so you know we’ve got we got all genders in the community

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obviously more women the men here but um but what’s you

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know I see this so commonly with the women who come into our group programs where they they want another level of

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success they want another level of abundance and yet they either they don’t

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feel worthy of it they feel bad for wanting it there can be old religious wounding about you’re going to be

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punished if you go for what you H or you should feel shameful for more how do we can you speak to those a little bit like

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how do you approach those with clients how do we start to break those I know it’s probably the same process but let’s let’s make it specific to money right

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now because I know this is a hot button for the community absolutely I mean money I love

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talking about this partially because it’s the most taboo Topic in the culture

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I think yeah and so getting curious about that taboo to start with can be an

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entry point into our money beliefs again all a subconscious mind you might know that you’re worthy of success and

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abundance and prosperity and being rich and you want those things and that’s so

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amazing and then these deep childhood parts are are attached I mean I mean for

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me I I grew up in a family where there was no exposure to business there was I

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didn’t even know anything about entrepreneurship business until my like early 20s there was no exposure to that

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it was a world of my parents were both in the public sector and even

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implicitly I learned that you know making money is is greedy or rich people are selfish or money is evil even uh and

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also we just didn’t have that much money and there was that atmosphere in the home and so beginning to reflect on the

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atmosphere you had in your home growing up is is a great entry point but yeah I

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mean I I work with many many of my my clients we we’ll work on usually three to five patterns over the course of our

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sessions together but oftentimes one of those patterns is money blocks um

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there’s many people I’ve worked with that they’re making tons of money even but they still have insecurities about money they still have fear about the

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future so yeah getting conscious and just inviting awareness to beliefs like

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I don’t have enough money like I’ll invite people to listening right now just if you just sit on that belief does it

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resonate in your body I don’t have enough money if it feels if there’s a weight

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there that means the part of you has a belief that’s filtering your reality um

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if it sounds empty it sounds ridiculous like 2 plus 2 equals 5 that means the belief’s not there but that’s kind of

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the sense test I’ll help people recognize is let’s just say this belief what’s Your Gut check about it another

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common one is making money as hard you know when you actually think

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about it and this is this is the dialogue I’ll have sometime with people in their parts their parts of their subconscious

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mind it’s like making money is hard is there any actual proof of that in terms

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of our sense data excuse me so yeah I

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mean and I break this down more in in in the guide that I have um it’s actually

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atth human liberation. I created this guide that that talks more about the specifics

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about this uh people want to kind of get really into it but basically

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it’s recognizing that in these events growing up you you you saw your parents struggling with with the bills well it’s

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recognizing that you didn’t actually see the belief I don’t have enough money you just

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saw things objects people you saw things with your eyes you saw your your mom or

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dad having a certain facial expression you saw this bill and then maybe you felt feelings in your body you felt this

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tension or this insecurity okay you had sense data coming in you’re experiencing

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but the actual story I don’t have enough money is not one of the pieces of sense

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data we just create meaning that’s what we do and it’s totally understandable as a kid

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especially we are trying to understand our environments we’re trying to stay

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safe we’re trying to stay connected we’re trying to fit in we’re trying to maintain attachment to our parents all

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the different like reasons that are so we make meaning we’re meaning making machines as

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humans so the the thing is we we are unconsciously making meaning when we’re

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having some of these challenges ing events growing up and so when you actually recognize

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that the the stories aren’t in objective reality it’s something you created in

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your mind and we can be free of it forever yeah and the clients I’ve worked with is just like enormous shift

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over like not even usually I work with people for 12 weeks um sometimes I’ll work with people

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I had a client who his money blocks were he he rated as a 10 10 out of 10 on week

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one and by week eight he was Zero he was like yeah I’m good like I I still blows

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my mind even sharing that like I know it might sound like I’m trying to Hype it up or something but I’m just sharing the

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real like we just keep shaving down beliefs and then is totally different

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totally different yeah oh my gosh that’s so good and and I love everything you’re saying because it it’s very aligned with

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the teaching that has changed my life and the work I do now my own life and with with clients too and I want to just

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come back to something and make sure that I’m hearing this the way that you’re you’re meaning it too so for

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everyone listening the way what I’m hearing you say is how do we know if we

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have a limiting belief how do we know if we have a subconscious pattern that’s holding us back right we we check in with our body and if it feels you use

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the word I think heavy like it’s weighing you down that’s an instant awareness that this is I’m thinking this

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is the way I think like I’m thinking something that’s not actually true for me in this moment or that doesn’t have

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to be my highest and best truth it’s it’s in conflict with what I think like my best or highest self knows and think

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so that’s the trigger is that feeling state in the body is that and you’re giving different language to it which I

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appreciate so is that am I hearing that right is there anything you would add on to that from what I said yeah I love

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integrating the the body and the mind it’s like let’s just start with the present moment what is the experience you’re having now that that feeling in

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the body that guarden this that you know maybe you’re for me I had fear about

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sales specifically and being on a sales call and and being

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in that moment where you’re making the pitch you’re saying okay would you like to become my client would you like to do this partnership

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whatever and feeling that like little twinge of anxiety right and then that’s

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the clue that’s the clue okay what do I have to believe in order for this anxiety to be occurring what is intern

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the actual cause because the the the the experience the the sales call is just

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the it’s just the external circumstance it’s not the cause the cause of your

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anxiety is from is from deeper is from your past yeah so I had a belief again I

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that I just have sort of absorbed through osmosis in this culture and in my family as well that sales is

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dishonest this is a big one I think because we don’t hear about sales in

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school it’s just that imply that sales is sleazy or whatever it is could be

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sales is sleazy sales is manipulative sales is dishonest sales is

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greedy so there’s a lot of that there’s a lot of that in our culture and so again we might consciously know people

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listening you’re experienced in in entrepreneurship or sales and you you know sales is about being authentic and

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being honest and if you actually want to have results you need to build that but the question is is there any part of you

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that’s holding on to something from the past because you absorbed it yeah through the culture so that was a big

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one for me the sales is dishonest that’s huge that’s I would

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imagine everyone listening has heard that I mean what’s the most common analogy I use car sales but like no

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disrespect to anyone who’s listening who sells cars right but that’s it’s just that conditioning and then um I I know

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so many of our listeners can relate and you go into we got a lot of listeners who are entrepreneurs or sales professionals you go into it because any

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number of reasons you you usually you want to help people you like what you’re selling and you like the idea of the

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abundance right and the opportunity for freedom and and all of that and and so it’s a beautiful way to live and yet if

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we’re held down by that belief or that you you talked about perception right it’s like this Veil that’s kind of

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clouding our perception when we’re on the sales calls it’s it’s kind of like you’re you’ve got this ankle we you’re

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just like dragging along right and you’re always moving slower than you could that’s that’s how I um that’s

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sometimes how I think about it speak a little bit more Joel like I’d love to go a little bit deeper into the the hustle

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culture and the conditioning that to be successful we need to be working

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247 um and this is I I man I remember when I was coming up in sales I I

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followed a sales leader who talked about like if you have any white space on your calendar it’s the devil and and so I got

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into this cycle where I would get up at 2:00 in the morning I’d go to bed at like 11 I was burning the candle at both

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ends I was working all the time and that was actually the season of my life where no matter what I did I couldn’t break

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past the low six figure Mark so I was working so hard all the time feeling

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like it was just like moving through quicksand but there was this like this weight and this this should of you

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should be working or else you’re not being productive you’re going to fall behind there’s the competition is going

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to get your de and this is this is pervasive in the business culture so you spoke a little bit to this before but

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I’d love to just go deeper into this if someone is realizing that yeah I’ve got this condition like I feel like I need

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to be working all the time and I feel guilty if I take a break or I like feel guilty if I go outside and feel the sun

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on my face during the day or we’ve got moms and and dad’s listening if I stop and play with my babies how do we start

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to dismantle this and and get passes and what’s what’s your take on this approach to work yeah this is one of my favorite

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topics uh because I’m a big fan of what I call high performance

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loafing uh there’s a great performance loafing yeah okay there there’s an

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author named Daniel coil who wrote the book The Talent Code and he he talks about how skill is

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grown and he went around the world studying High performers such as Elite tennis players

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and soccer players and musicians and he was trying to figure out how to these places build Talent anyway he had a blog

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post some 10 years ago talking about the importance of rest in all his research um the the the top

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performers in any area of life actually work very

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focused for a finite number of of hours and then they’re resting and they’re getting tons of downtime I mean

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historically someone like Charles Darwin was like working I don’t know he would work 9 to 12 in the morning and then he

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was he was playing back gamon with his family he was taking long walks he’s taking a naps like in this restoration

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time is essential for having for your brain to be let’s take sleep and napping

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this is a huge opportunity for your brain to process information and to have insights and have to be refreshed and to

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be restoring and taking long walks with no technology having you know great

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ideas and from these long walks and and refreshing your mind and getting the endorphins and and we know these things

30:44

like people listening to podcasts like we’re hearing about the self-help and make sure you take time for yourself and self-care and all that stuff but then we

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have these subconscious beliefs because we’ve been conditioned we’re just a product of our conditioning and like

30:58

I’ll just zoom out for a second like I just want to invite compassion right now for everybody like we’re growing up in this

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when it comes to work specifically this work hard for this for the sake of working hard this like puritanical like

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it’s baked into us and like just just forgive yourself first at a metal level

31:21

for this this wheel that you’re on because it’s very hard I’ve done a lot of belief work on myself

31:28

with this and there’s still beliefs that I haven’t found yet I think because there’s so many different ways that we

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we are so many different spellings if you will different beliefs about work ethic um that we want to uncover but

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like what makes me Worthy is working hard the way to be successful is to work

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hard um making money is hard I’m not doing enough I should be doing

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more this stuff we it gets instilled in installed into us through through this

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culture and so that first step is to just invite some self-acceptance I think

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for that wheel that this sort of cycle that we inherited from our parents they inherited from their parents and like

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but we we actually know that what matters for creating value and creating results is just that creating value and

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creating results it’s not about how much your body is straining itself like is there isn’t there a distinction between

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doing valuable work being productive and straining your body like

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is it really necessary to have this physiological experience of

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distress in order to create value in the

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marketplace that’s sort of like a high level rhetorical question for people and

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then when we actually investigate you know at this level of spef specificity

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we again we connected these subconscious parts and see what beliefs they have but yeah I’m I’m I’m pretty passionate about

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this one because I want people to enjoy life and have that time that

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downtime and and take care of ourselves but I also don’t want to people often will try to swing the

33:16

pendulum the other way and and focus on self-care and then not do the the the hard work hard

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work meaning like concrete work tangible um results producing work um

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which is also a form of self-care like doing the thing that you want to do that’s going to move your

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business forward the most and create the flourishing life you want is a form of

33:45

self-care so yeah I could Riff on that for a long time but oh my gosh yeah man

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it’s funny it’s like even as you talk I had a visceral physical reaction and likeing up in my eyes because I know

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this conditioning is yeah so deep right it’s so deep and I I see this even with

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we’ve got a three and a halfy old and even over the past couple of weeks he

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started to bring home art from school and say look I worked so hard on

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this do he’ll he’ll um be playing with a toy and he’s like he made me a necklace

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the other day was so sweet and he’s like look Mommy I worked so hard on this and it’s been interesting

34:28

yeah I feel like emotionally even talking about it because I I I don’t think we we’re pretty conscious in our

34:34

household about our we’re very conscious and our household about our language I don’t think we’re really talking a lot about working hard necessarily in the

34:41

old way because that’s it’s just something that both my my partner and I are conscious to now um in our lives but

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you know maybe he heard it from us if we like said something off-handed or maybe he heard it from school but uh and to

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your point there’s nothing wrong with with working hard when it’s in the energy of to me creation like what am I

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creating I want to bring forth and that’s but I don’t know to me it doesn’t feel like hard work it feels like Joy it

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feels like fun it feels exciting um but just to see him start to say that like man this is interesting

35:13

how early this shows up and all of us had it so yeah it’s it’s it’s wild and

35:20

it’s it’s a game Cher let me let me ask you this Joel and I know you put together um you put

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together a great guide for our listeners which I appreciate so we’ll we’ll have you share that again at the end but is

35:31

there anything that I haven’t asked you that I love this topic is there anything I haven’t asked you that you think is

35:37

important for our listeners to know or is is part of um your approach to

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freedom and I love I I love what you do here I love the focus so is there anything that they should know or that I haven’t asked you that you want me to

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ask you what comes to mind is just

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emphasizing that this approach that I that I guide people

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with it actually permanently eliminates the subconscious

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limiting belief in 99% of the time

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plus it takes about 20 minutes sometimes it takes shorter and when we actually have this

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dialogue with the part of you that believes the thing then the belief’s just gone like

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Santa Claus isn’t real anymore and you might have meta beliefs like

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hearing that that that’s not possible and I invite awareness about

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any beliefs about change that change can’t be fast change has to be hard I usually start with clients the first

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session we we start with change blocks if there’s any blocks that nothing I do

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Works uh it’s not going to work or I can’t change then we Free People of that and

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then there’s all this excitement oh I see that those beliefs just evaporated now what now what else can I

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let go of so and again just Tak the Santa Claus

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example uh almost everybody growing up we just have the story going the Santa

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Claus is real and it’s like a whole thing it’s a big deal and we believe it

37:24

and then when we actually realize it’s not true true it evaporates it’s not like a year later the next Christmas

37:31

time you’re re-evaluating your stance on stup it’s just gone forever so yeah I just want to emphasize

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that it’s that it’s not what I’m doing is it’s just guiding people to to

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unlearn to eliminate to let go to declutter whatever word you want to use

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and it’s pretty simple we don’t need to we don’t need to like have these okay now I’m going to have this whole

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plan for what I’m going to do um to change my life and muscle through this

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comfort zone issue and make these changes in my life and here’s my new routines that I’m going to set up in

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order to transform and here I just work with people we just people just show up

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for an hour and we clear several beliefs each session and their whole life’s

38:21

different and then they come back the next week and it’s just everything gets better automatically

38:27

because the beliefs are gone so again I I mean I’m trying to come across as

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genuine as possible with this because I know I understand that there could be skepticism about that and I was

38:40

skeptical the first time and like by all means like I’m a huge proponent of critical thinking and think for

38:47

yourself um but like it’s just my experience like it my whole life’s changed the past three years since

38:53

learning this and it’s like my like my deeper purpose is to share this with as

38:59

many people on the planet as possible and like de like help people decondition

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um this is this is about this is about more than business for me this is like how do we how do we really really heal

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the planet type stuff so yeah I’m with you no I’m so with you I

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the thing I I say about our brand and our podcast even is like sales as the Trojan Horse because I think that what

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what happens when you learn these Concepts and go deeper is like your whole life transforms and opens up and I

39:31

I I believe you about it can happen quickly because that’s the power of emotional impact it can happen just like

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that if we’re open so um and I’ve had that experience myself this is this is

39:41

amazing thank you so much I know our listeners my listeners love this type of

39:48

conversation and I think you’ve added a new and a fresh perspective that we’ve never talked about before on the show

39:55

when it comes to this so so thank you so much um share a little bit more I know you put together a great guide which I

40:01

so appreciate um for our listeners so you want to share a little bit more about that and how people can connect

40:06

with you yeah absolutely this has been an energizing conversation and I just really appreciate what you’re doing

40:13

and the the guide is at thehuman liberation. El and the guide is called

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get to the root the keys to permanently end negative selft talk

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and yeah that guide is it expounds upon what I’ve said today in terms of

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understanding how our subconscious stories play out in our adult lives and

40:39

and recognizing that we made meaning in childhood events and so one of the one of the cool things about the guide is I

40:46

I tuck in these little vignettes about my own childhood and I share specific

40:51

scenes specific memories that are attached to specific limiting beliefs that I used to

40:57

have and hopefully that can be you know um instructive or valuable for

41:05

people to just see that I you know I’ve gone through this and and I’ve had I’ve had uh less than

41:13

ideal childhood and and things like that and so much has changed for me so yeah

41:19

you can download that guide and then also like once you download the guide uh you’ll also have the chance to to book a

41:25

session with me and I’m I’m just being as abundant as possible as I build this business and the way I’m doing it at

41:32

least for now is that I’m just giving people a gift session where I’m

41:38

gonna I I’ll give you we’ll kind of do an inventory of what beliefs are causing

41:43

patterns in your life and then we’ll actually do this process we I’ll clear one belief for you so that’s totally a gift for you um so you so once you go to

41:50

the that URL you’ll and you get you um get the Guide then you’ll have the chance to book a call with me as well if

41:56

you want to just try this out that’s awesome that’s awesome I think you’ll get many calls booked um that’s that’s

42:02

amazing thank you thank you so much for that thank you for this conversation and um I’m really really glad we’re

42:09

connected and I’m excited about the work that you’re doing and um and what you brought today so thank you my pleasure

42:16

and thank you I I love your I love your Vibe and I love the the abundance that you are inviting into the world and so I

42:23

think like yeah this sort of combination of all this healthy manifestation

42:29

visualization affirmation conscious abundance creating Law of Attraction type stuff combined with letting go of

42:37

the negative stuff is just an absolute superpower like I love I love doing the the visualization I’m like I’m I’m I’m

42:45

I’ve read several of these live attraction books and like I love teaming that up with with the belief work and so

42:51

yeah really excited for what’s possible for for people as as they as they learn about these ideas yeah it’s so powerful

42:58

oh my gosh thank you my friend and uh to you my listener go connect with Joel get

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his guide we’ll link it in the show notes and I’m confident that you have I

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think new found I know I certainly have a newfound level of openness for what’s

43:15

possible and what can open up in life as we get clear and free from these old

43:21

restrictions and limitations that have been ruling the show for many of us for for most of our live so uh so this

43:27

is such a great conversation as always thank you so much for being a listener of She Sells Radio and I’ll see you on

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our next episode bye for now.

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Welcome to She Sells Radio. I have a very special it’s actually a best of episode

0:08

for you today which I have honestly rarely done over the course of over three hundred episodes now but I there there are a

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couple of episodes that I personally go back to again and again and again

0:20

because every time I do I get a shift I get an elevation I have an up level an

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ascension and this is an episode that uh that I have gone back to multiple times

0:33

myself and I was actually listening to this week while I was working out and I thought I have to bring this back on the

0:39

podcast um this is where I interviewed a  friend of mine an amazing woman Marie

0:45

Claire who went from literally homeless to seven figures

0:50

entrepreneur and she did it the feminine way now regardless of your gender as you’re listening when I say the feminine

0:56

way what I mean is that it was not about about hustling or efforting or

1:02

struggling her way there it was about allowing receiving

1:10

expansion um abundance and I know that if you’re a listener of this show that

1:16

you want all of those things for yourself and that you are Desiring them I’m guessing at a greater and greater

1:22

level and so I was listening to this this week while I was working out and I was so inspired I was like I want to bring this back on the show for you to

1:29

listen to because it’s buried now in The Archives of the podcast and I’m popping

1:35

it back to the top for you to listen to and to enjoy so you are going to have

1:40

such an amazing time listening to this um you’re going to get so many up levels for yourself and I want to invite you

1:47

now just to really listen in and be open to what is um what’s possible for you

1:54

when you’re ready to allow more into your life because you’re going to hear exactly how to do that in this episode

1:59

epode enjoy welcome to She Sells Radio today’s

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guest is going to blow your mind my friend so get excited for a treat so

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today’s guest is a sought after Beauty and lifestyle expert on social media

2:16

she’s an entrepreneur she’s a huge inspiration you I I would say

2:21

particularly for single mothers and women in business and you’re going to hear about her story today on the show

2:28

and it’s it’s so inspiring and her just a little teaser so she immigrated from

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Haiti as a tea mom uh while raising her beautiful son Dominique who’s autistic

2:40

and epileptic epileptic and made the journey from welfare to homelessness to

2:45

bankruptcy to feeling unworthy and ashamed and now as a seven figure entrepreneur with her sales topping over

2:52

$167,000 a month which is like oh my gosh celebration so exciting so please

2:59

welcome mother licensed skin therapist and CEO of seven figure brand

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acne expert skincare the incredible Marie Claire Marie welcome to the show today wow what an intro let’s roll that

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in one more time I love that right you can play that as your morning

3:18

PumpUp but it’s you and it’s true and you did all of it and we want to know how oh my God tell us tell us your story

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tell us how like how did how did you go from from te mom in Haiti to where you

3:32

are today yes um so I came here from Haiti when I was 16 pregnant and my

3:40

mother sent me here to have the baby because it was such shame and guilt and

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you know I went to an all girl Catholic school and you you get that already and

3:52

I felt so horrible they kept it a secret no one knew I was pregnant so right

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there you know I’m caring this guilt this shame I’m hiding right so I come to

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the US I speak no English I give birth to my son

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and of course he now has autism and epilepsy so I have to deal with all of

4:16

that on top of it I don’t understand what’s happening with him I don’t understand the diagnosis because I don’t

4:22

speak English so I am learning by watching TV uh a little side note All My

4:28

Children so I and throw back fun fact all my

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children thank you and um and then I got on welfare because I needed support I

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was 16 years old and um and and I always say I’m so grateful for the for for

4:50

welfare the welfare system here because there are people like me we truly needed that right so I was so beyond grateful I

4:58

felt so blessed I’m like oh my God this country is amazing they give help they

5:04

give help to people who need it and here lies my gratitude for the United States

5:09

of America I love this country so so much um because there’s so much to look at um you know that on the good side

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right so um then what did I do Dan I went to adult school because I couldn’t

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go to school in the daytime since I was a teenager with a mom I was watching my son in the daytime so I went to adult

5:31

school at night and got my GED and uh and then from there I got my

5:38

first job I believe when I was 19 so I went to the welfare office and told my

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um my casew worker if you will that today is the day I I no longer need the

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welfare I am standing on my own I got my first job she was so excited she cried

5:56

we both cried and um and I was just so proud and I remember my first job I was making

6:04

$113,000 a year and I was so excited I’m like oh my God I just I’m so happy I’m

6:11

making more than a thousand dollars a month and yeah I could barely survive on

6:17

it by the way but I was so grateful and

6:22

the life started to change you know I started to feel a little bit more confident because now I could take care

6:30

of myself right on my own and then of course I went to sleeping in the car

6:36

because I got evicted from where I was living because I could not afford the rent remember $113,000 a year I was

6:43

trying to make and meet and um you know and you know and I always had this sense

6:50

of dignity through it all like I carry myself well you would never know that I

6:55

was struggling financially because on the outside I look so well put together

7:00

which I think it’s one of the thing that helped me too because my energy was always one of I want to radiate what’s

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inside of me because inside I really do feel radiant it’s just my

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senses are not changing yet but I know that they will right yes how do I want

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to pause you just really quick on that because I think that is something that regardless of where somebody is in their

7:26

life Mar CLA if they’re not where they want to be yet knowing how to radiate

7:32

that confidence that energy like even for you while you were sleeping in your car was that something did you just know

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how or had you been taught my parents like how did how did you do that even when you’re in this what most people

7:44

would say is incredibly tough situation totally I attribute that to my faith um

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and my mother it’s a gift from my mom I grew up my mom was always a Praying Woman she would pray I grew up Catholic

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they were doing no we went to church every Sunday my mom always whenever something was going wrong or going right

8:05

my mother would pray so I was like oh okay so it was ingrained in me so

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sleeping in the car very tough by the way tears depression and I always said

8:17

why why me why am I going through this right so and then when you look back when I look back

8:25

and see that wow I don’t know where I got the strength from but can tell you it’s from my Fai from my faith I always

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rely on prayer till this day I am prayer is my number one source of strength and

8:39

guidance it still is and um and my mother always said that it’s like you

8:45

know it’s like you have to carry yourself well like my mom always instilled that in me she said no matter

8:51

what wear the lipstick wear the high heels I started to wear heels at 14 oh

8:56

my goodness I love but was it’s a gift that she gave me people used to be like

9:02

God you’re just so tough on her and whatever but she was preparing me for the world so when I show up in the room

9:08

I radiate I’m not afraid to shine I’m not afraid of my beauty I I welcome it I

9:16

know that I’m beautiful no matter what society says like I am my own standard of beauty so it’s something that comes

9:23

from my mom it really is a gift that she gave me and I believed it and I really do I did believe it and it’s working

9:31

well for me right so caring myself um the way I feel inside just showing up as

9:37

that so um yeah so that was part of the journey too and then eventually I ended

9:43

up in Corporate America and I was in human resources and thought that I was

9:50

just gonna throw parties I’m like human resources that’s what I want to do it’s just a big party

9:57

it’s a big party uh because people would see me as like you’re the atal manager I’m like yes and

10:04

they’re like you just don’t look like an atal manager I’m like I know I know

10:09

because I was just too happy I was too happy red lipstick bold like who does

10:15

that where’s your turtleneck right where’s your turtleneck no shame the

10:21

managers okay no sh but I was you know the one I was just very vibrant and then

10:28

I realized oh my God you do fire people in Human Resources uh oh that’s not what

10:34

I want to do right so throughout my career in Human Resources my son just

10:42

got worse like his epilepsy he liter he probably would have a seizur TW 12

10:47

seizures a month oh and that was unbearable I I got tired of calling in

10:53

sick right so because in Corporate America as you know you get sick sick

10:59

days a year in in in the US um I would run through that like water literally

11:06

like January boom it’s gone and the fear of one day I’m going to crawl in sick

11:15

and I’m just gonna get fired like they’re gonna tell me not to come back I I carried that fear with me and then at

11:22

the same time too my soul started to say what’s next

11:28

what’s next what’s next and I didn’t know what was next I’m like what is next

11:33

what what is that calling and I would drive to work I remember being in the

11:39

car um thinking God I just don’t want to do this anymore but what am I meant to

11:44

do and it was one morning it was one of Dominic’s doctor’s appointment and his

11:50

doctor was in Beverly Hills and I remember it was it was lunchtime maybe

11:56

121 and he had to get get an EEG and all that so it’s probably two or three by

12:02

then and I’m walking to my car and all these women just eating having lunch

12:07

just ease just ease and Grace is just flowing through them I can feel it iten

12:16

how come you’re not rushing back to the office so I’m like oh my God ladies you

12:21

look so beautiful what do you do oh we own our own business and I said oh

12:26

walking to the car I said I have to own my own business that’s

12:32

what it is wow I need to just I need to feel the way these women felt like I

12:40

could see it being demonstrated in front of me so now what is it that I’m going

12:46

to do right so this is this is the the question that came all what is it that

12:52

I’m meant to do what it is that I meant to do so I was Al always interested in Beauty I was the girl you would find at

12:59

Sephora all the time I was buying everything cream moisturizers I also use

13:06

I still I am I’m acne prone here’s one I’m not lying I’m acne prone and I was always

13:15

breaking out and could not figure out why am I breaking out breaking out so

13:20

often right so I would buy things return them buy more things still breaking out

13:27

love lipstick love um doing my makeup and I said oh you know what I’m going to

13:33

just jump and do makeup so I’m going to side hustle so I started I took out a

13:40

little ad in um in Craigslist if you guys remember oh my gosh that’s a

13:46

throwback I love the throwback references today yes yes way back then

13:52

wow I took it I put a little ad makeup artist I do weddings and and whatnot

13:57

didn’t have any training but I’m like I can do this I can do this and was pretty

14:02

good at it right how did you get I want to pause you really quick how did you get because I think one of the things

14:07

that is most I’m just I love love love in your story is this confidence like so

14:13

many women that I work with think well I’ve got to get a license before I can do this or I’ve got to get another certification before I can start

14:19

promoting myself and sometimes you do like depending on what it is that you’re doing but oftentimes it’s a mask for

14:27

fear it’s a coverup for fear so how did what would you like for a woman who’s

14:32

who’s feeling like oh I just I feel scared to put myself out there I feel like maybe I need another certification

14:38

another license what would you say to her how can she borrow some of your confidence oh my God you just gotta say

14:43

yes and it’s sounds so easy but there’s some work that’s that

14:50

required right so like hiring a Coach reading self-improvement books doing

14:56

affirmation incantation and seeing yourself as the person that you see in

15:02

your head right it sounds so easy but it’s practice practice practice so I

15:08

always say so what’s the next step right what is the next step what is the next

15:13

step what is the next step so my first step was to take a little ad on craist

15:19

and I’m just you know I’m not doing something major I’m not saying I’m going to take out an ad on TV it’s Craiglist I

15:26

can do that right and and then also to the nagging feeling

15:32

I know women we feel this because we’re so intuitive you get that God but if I

15:37

don’t do this I’m just going to regret it it’s like yes you have like every day

15:43

it nags at you it just it’s here every day every day it’s like I can’t leave like that I don’t know about you I

15:50

cannot leave like that it’s like I have to do it right so when I was there that

15:55

girl there 12 years ago who took and add on Craigslist I just was so tired I was

16:03

tired of feeling unfulfilled in my line to five that’s what it was I was tired

16:10

and I knew my heart you know what always trust your heart yes my heart knew it

16:18

was going to be okay my head said oh my God you’re leaving your corporate job to

16:24

side hustle where I wasn’t leaving like you have Marie you have a good paycheck you have 41k oh my God stop it already

16:31

just be grateful and my heart is saying there is

16:37

more there is more there is more so and I couldn’t deny it I just could not deny

16:44

it I’m very I’m a curious person too I just have to see what’s on the other side of that right so

16:51

that I started to side hustle and I was getting clients I was charging back then

16:58

and I was charging like 125 for brides right but I worked so hard for that 125

17:07

I tell you I worked so hard because I had to go to their reception do their

17:12

touchup and um I was like okay this is not enough maybe I need to now just work

17:18

for MAC Cosmetics so I ended up working for MAC Cosmetics just to make the story

17:24

short okay that wasn’t that either because I got to meet quotas like I’m not very saly in my head I what is the

17:32

word here I don’t see numbers I just want to just feel fulfilled that’s innately that’s how I am so doesn’t

17:40

matter how much I make if it’s not fulfilling I’m not gonna stay right so

17:46

if I’m I’m like I gotta count how many lipsticks did I sell today it just took out the fun it just it just didn’t make

17:52

it fun anymore so quit Mac went back to corporate

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America o turtleneck land I so much love I know we have a lot of corporate women

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who listen too and I’ve been in corporate and so no because I was not making enough money

18:10

and I said I just gotta go back to Corporate America so how did you handle that did it feel like defeat at that

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moment as hell yeah was I and I said well you know

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what I’m just going to go back I have a plan until I figure out what it is that I need to be but I know that the money

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will actually just settle my it will just bring in some more ease right

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because I was looking for the E but this is not what I wanted today so to do so back to HR so back to HR got a SCU the

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resume iando job in Beverly Hills um at a very fancy sports club like just

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celebrities and oh my God I mean the membership is like 2,200 a mon can I

18:59

tell you like that’s a very it was very high Vibe I loved it there I loved the

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vibe but still did not enjoy being a human resources manager

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so one day I am at I’m at Sephora with

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my cousin and a girlfriend and um they’re like you know Marie CLA you’re so good at skin care and you’re always

19:24

telling us you’re always reading ingredients and and stuff like that you think you know what you you could be

19:30

a great aesthetician in the light Bob just

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went I said that’s what I meant to be doing that’s what yes skin care

19:43

aesthetician mind you my mother had told me that before and I never I was like no

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I’m not gonna be an aesthetician she’s like oh my God because you’re doing makeup and you can teach people um how

19:56

to take care of their skin like no that’s not what I meant to do no I think it’s because it was coming

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from my mother right often times right and we’ve got a hear something at the right time too yes you know yeah totally

20:10

and I think my soul was ready to hear it when I tell you two weeks later I was in

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skin care school two weeks later and it was so easy went appli fill at the

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paperwork paid the fees got on my monthly plan to play the student loan

20:27

and w I was in skin care school and I was so happy I was the best student in

20:36

the classroom okay my teacher knew she looked at she’s like something special

20:43

like I I couldn’t wait to get to to school every morning like I was so happy

20:50

I’m like I found my passion so from there life started to change I when I

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got into skin care school I knew that I was going to work for myself because remember those ladies right that I saw

21:03

having L yes they own their own business so the whole time I’m like I’m gonna own my own business I’m gonna be my boss My

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Own Boss so finish skin scare school and I started to open a studio in um where I

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was living so I was renting a house in Glendale and it had a back house and I was like I I’m going to turn that into a

21:28

skincare Studio you have to apply for license and and and everything like the state has to um give your approval so I

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took all the steps and when you’re meant to do something I really believe that

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there is a lot of ease that comes with it because you’re meant to do it and

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even when you’re faced with challenges you’re you’re so happy you’re

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so in the moment they don’t even feel like challenges right like there are people people would have been like oh my

21:59

God they said no the first time I’m GNA quit because I have to make the hallway like it has to be this wide this length

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and you gotta have water here and there I gotta hire a plumber some people would be like I’m gonna quit I don’t want to

22:12

do all that to me I was like oh it’s gonna be perfect right because I was just so happy I felt so at home so those

22:20

challenges just felt like okay I’m just their stepping stone what else am I meant to do so open my first Studio no

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one came for how long for how long the first

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month I fell I think I made $20 and it was from my friend oh my god

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of course to can add on Craig remember Facebook back then was not a thing we didn’t have ads we didn’t have in

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Instagram was not even a thing when I started yeah and I said well I have to

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supplement this income so I I went to work for a dermatologist and best thing I’ve ever

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done because it you know the universe is kind I got what I needed working for

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this dermatologist who was also a plastic surgeon he only worked with um

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acne patients yeah and I took classes at UCLA

23:22

about ingredients and how they affect the skin I learned so much from him I became a medical aesthetician that would

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have never happened had I not you know if I was just successful on the Geto or

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you know that I was booked the universe was guiding me there and so I I want to

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pause you really quick on that Mar Clair because how did you stay committed to

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your vision in that moment because some people would take that as a sign like oh it’s just not meant to be or this is too

23:53

hard how but how did you no doubt you probably dealt with feelings of

23:59

disappointment and maybe fear you know all of that but how did you know to stay

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committed to the vision and to just pivot rather than throwing in the

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towel this is where you know you’re gonna hear me say that a lot I really

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follow my heart I really I am I don’t function from a here I do sometimes

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usually what gets us in trouble right when I have to look at my p&l and de

24:28

centers now because I’m running a seven figure business but there’s always balance there

24:35

so again my faith big thing here this is this is my story this is how I got

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through it right so I started right around that time I started to discover

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authors like Wayne Dyer um Wayne Dyer Lis hay Esther Hicks

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Michael Becket Michael Singer like all these all my favorites yeah oh my God and um I read

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the book The Power of intentions and it changed my life and from reading that

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book it’s by Wayne diai um by the way I met him person like that’s a fun Side

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Story I manifested that but I just knew that I was just going to

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follow where my heart was leading me it’s very hard to do when you listen to society that says

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You must do this you must do that you must follow your head you must be practical and all of that it’s

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hard to do but I promise you it’s like you’ve been doing that for so long and it’s not

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working why not give yeah why not try it this way right so end up working working

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for this dermatologist plastic surgeon became a medical

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esthetician of course my confident grew with that because now I have more

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practice under my belt and I said I’m going to Pivot and I’m gonna focus on

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only seeing customers who have acne in the meantime I’m working on at home on

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the weekend uh they don’t even know that like I don’t tell them like I have a side Hustle but I’m putting into

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practice everything that I’m learning right so from there um when at that time

26:35

then this is where the story comes and I I met my first coach Gina De Gina we

26:43

gotta give a shout out gotta give a shout out is how we met yes because she

26:48

changed my life she was one of the women that really changed my life and I think

26:54

I was ready right so when di Louis say then I hear this woman talking about your worth

26:59

and I’m like I gotta go I gotta learn more about this woman she was on a call

27:05

and talking about living in a feminine way I’m like oh this is this this is my tribe right I’m like yes tell me more so

27:13

went to an event she was doing in Santa Monica and I was able to be in the

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hotset if you will where she was she did like a laser session on my business and I remember telling her oh I’m charging

27:24

$45 and she screamed she’s like what are you insane look at you everyone please

27:30

look at Marie CLA she charges $45 for a treatment then you got a scalp massage

27:35

put oh my goodness and she made me look

27:41

at my worth and she’s like you’re worth so much more why AR you aren’t you charging

27:48

your worth and I said but who’s gonna pay that much for a facial she said you

27:54

are a medical aesthetician what your bringing to table if you believe you work Charing more

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than you should right and I started to work on that I’m like so little by little I started to increase my prices

28:07

and then I moved the office to Beverly Hills um and I mean it’s such a long

28:13

story I want to cut it short but moved to Beverly Hills and then I decided that

28:20

when I switched to nishing and only seeing people with acne

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my business exploded like I could my book I was booked all the time I was

28:34

booked all the time because I was known as now I’m now the acne expert so people

28:41

came to me just for acne I didn’t wax I didn’t do lash painting I didn’t do any

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which I did not enjoy doing by the way so stick to what you enjoy doing and

28:52

because in the beginning I would offer everything I would work my tail to the Bone I’m like I got a wax I got to do

28:57

this I got to do that but I my love really I had I had a love for acne because I was in acne suffer as well so

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booked and then I realized one day and I didn’t realize it came to me you should

29:11

have your own skincare line what I’m like you gotta be kidding me

29:18

how where with what money how do you do that yeah no kidding and I started to

29:25

look at the ingredients of the skincare I was selling other brands to my

29:31

customers right so you you know like when you go to a spot they like oh you need this Moisturizer in this sunscreen

29:37

that’s what I was doing and um and then I would look at the list of ingredients from what I I was like oh my God I’m

29:43

selling them the wrong products how how do I start and that was a two years

29:50

journey and found a manufacturer and let me tell you little

29:57

by by little I started with three products and now I have 42 products and

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you know sales are at 167,000 and let me tell you when I say

30:11

this I keep pinching myself because this is the girl who you know was on welfare lived on

30:19

cabbage and rice for a long long time and who now just living with ease and

30:26

Grace in prosperity and I am just I’m so fulfilled I feel so blessed I have a

30:34

great husband my son is doing great I take care of him financially 100% and

30:41

I’m able to give back to him now in fact one of my biggest

30:48

accomplishments I always get a little emotional when

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that when when I started the business I’m crying too I don’t even

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know what it is and I’m crying too I Dominique was is epileptic and I had to

31:07

put him in a group home because I couldn’t take care of him 247 because he

31:12

needs 24hour care so I put him in a group home and I felt horrible but I had

31:19

to do that in order to build a business and I said one day I’m just going to

31:25

take him back and and it took me seven years you know

31:31

and he started to put on weight and he had high blood pressure like he put on

31:37

60 pounds and the doctors wanted to put him on more meds and I remember last year I saw I saw him and I

31:45

said this is it I’m taking my son back and that was on a

31:50

Thursday by the next Tuesday I was signing list a list for his own two-bedroom two bath in Beverly Hills

31:58

and I hired full-time care for him so I’m just so grateful to be able to give

32:04

back to Dominic because we’ve been through so much together and when I tell

32:10

you Le like he lost 60 pounds in three months because he’s eating well um he’s eating

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organic and he exercises with my husband and he is

32:25

thriving and if I were leave Earth today this is I will leave very happy and

32:31

peaceful because I get to give back to Dominique because

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Dominique is my big wife so oh my God I’m just so

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grateful I forgot every other question I was gonna ask you because that just made me cry really hard too oh my gosh

32:54

wow wow from one from a new mom mama’s heart to um to another mama’s heart that

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is I know every woman listening gets that wow totally one thing I want to ask

33:05

you and your I’ve just learned so much listening to your story I know everyone everyone listening has as

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well and you and I were even talking about this in the pre-chat is

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about on your journey from like six to seven figures and our listeners are all different places some are wanting to

33:22

break their first six figure some are wanting to scale to seven and Beyond but

33:27

you mentioned it was the more you allow the more you surrender the more you stay

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in your feminine the more the money came and I’m really curious to hear about how

33:39

you did that even as you’re scaling and there’s more team and there’s more to pay attention to and there’s more to

33:44

manage like how how did you do that and how do you stay in that receptive mode

33:51

in the midst of everything bigger that you’re managing now there is and author Esther Hicks yes

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and she is big on feeling good is work I’ve been listening to her for years and

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she’s one of the authors that changed my life as well and living in the receptive mode is

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what she talks about all the time and even Gina um who was my coach in she

34:23

always talk about doing business the feminine way and it’s some that I had to learn it’s already in you

34:30

but I had to like bring it forward forward and um and truly believe that I

34:37

deserve it and truly believe that I deserve it and truly believe that it

34:43

didn’t have to be hard I had to do a lot of deprogramming a lot of it gotta work

34:50

hard it’s gonna be tough sweat tears you got to make your goals and it’s gota it’s got to scare you to death and and

34:57

all of that you got and I work so hard I burn my adrenals yeah and um you know and then

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learning to just say I remember when I got to six figures and I wanted to get

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to Seven figures and I had a conversation with Gina and she

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said are you ready to allow it are you ready

35:24

to let go of the fear around your son Dominique because I had so much fear

35:31

around Dominique like always worri about him and she said when you start to do to

35:37

do this and you start to allow more she said it’s GNA get easier and easier and

35:45

I just have these practices I wake up I read a gratitude um I have my gratitude

35:50

Journal I meditate and it’s a practice it’s not like one day boom it happens

35:57

it’s a practice um and then you know I learned from all the everyone I’m like

36:02

everybody’s successful is saying the same thing it must be true when you listen to all these do you need to

36:09

listen to one other podcast that the person is saying I have a gratitude practice I meditate in the morning I

36:16

find something that bring me joy I mean they’re doing the other things too you know like of course you got to look at

36:23

your p&l you got to come up with your marketing strategy but they’re telling you oh I’m living gratitude so I started

36:31

Co was such a blessing for me because I discover my love for nature

36:38

and I would go on these long long walks and I’m obsessed with trees and I would

36:44

look at the trees I would just feel so much peace I would thank God for my life so I just started to thank God for my

36:51

life I just kept doing that and do you know like my life changed drastically I

36:57

didn’t do anything different I didn’t change my Facebook ads I didn’t I didn’t do anything different I just started to

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feel grateful yes by walking and then there are these um I do these thing

37:12

called this thing called incantation I learned that from Tony Robin so this is where it’s not affirmation this is like

37:20

embodying embodying the energy that you want to be so I wanted to be a seven

37:27

figure entrepreneur right so how does it feel to be a seven figure entrepreneur

37:33

it feels like ease it feels like fun it feels like Freedom it feels like choices choices choices lots of choices it feels

37:40

like traveling first class it feels like tipping well it feels like the

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impression of increase so you know what I started to do I started to tip people I tip 25% everywhere I

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go I leave everyone with the impression and bring peace I wherever I go I bring

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joy abundance Prosperity I treat my friends well I TI the valley guy five

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to10 do I my nail lady I TI for 15 to $20 so I just started to do that more

38:15

and more and the universe started to show me like when you open your hands it

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does too yes so and the more there’s evidence of it just grew my faith it

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grew my confidence so and now I do it all the time this is who I I am you know

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my name is mar Clare Kates and I am a thriver I’m the most blessed person on the planet everywhere I go people love

38:41

me things are always working out for me I’m a power manifestor I choose where the light is

38:49

that I in when I say this I walk around my house and I am just saying it with

38:55

power and confidence you know God’s wealth is circulating into my life his wealth flows to me in Avalanches of

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abundance all of my goals needs desires are met instantaneously by infinite

39:07

intelligence I am one with God and God is everything I say this over and over

39:13

and over and over until I feel it sometime I Cry Sometimes I’m just I do

39:19

these incantations I do them on the street people think I’m crazy I don’t care but I’m in the flow because I’m

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choosing me so this is what I’m doing I am just allowing my way into seven

39:34

figures that’s what I’ve been doing my husband will tell you the same thing like I’m just and then really really

39:41

really since we’re women really listen to me when I tell you this feeling good

39:47

is the work feeling horrible doubt fear this is not what I mean imagine God

39:55

creating us and just saying like yep you’re gonna suffer this is Imagine well

40:00

let’s make it realistic your parent your mother you give birth to your child and you’re like I’m Gonna Make You Suffer

40:08

that’s what I’m here to do suffer Everything you ask for I’m not gonna give to you yeah

40:14

water figure it out you want food work for it oh you want shelter and

40:20

clothing why don’t you work hard for it we don’t say that that’s how God we don’t say that can you imagine saying

40:27

that to your child oh my gosh never I love that analogy I’ve never heard it said that way before I love imagine like

40:35

oh you want food too bad you’re gonna suffer you are here we are here to

40:43

thrive we’re just we just need to allow it we just need to believe that’s what we’re here to do we’re here for

40:50

happiness we’re here to thrive we’re here for abundance prosperity and joy start changing your mind mindset that’s

40:57

what you’re here to do and every day when I tell you now I can tell you you

41:03

can’t convince me otherwise you cannot convince me otherwise because my life reflects it

41:10

the more I do it the more abundant I become I’m like oh my God to the point

41:16

my husband was very extremely extreme masculine like he’s a grinder

41:22

247 my husband one day said to me hm I want to know what you’re doing I want

41:28

to do what you’re doing so now my husband went from waking up at 5:00 A.M working out the day he doesn’t go to bed

41:35

until 12 oh he meditates he journals he plays golf he’s learning I’m like enjoy

41:44

life oh my God enjoy the process because it’s never done as soon as I reach I

41:51

remember as soon as I as I reach 15K a month I was like okay can I get to 20K can I get to 30 can I it never stops

41:58

stop and then you forget to enjoy it oh my god when tell you it’s harder to get

42:06

to six figures than it is to get to Seven figures because you’re working so hard yeah oh my gosh you’re working so

42:14

hard and then the minute when I tell you I work less I work less because I have to team to support me and this is a

42:22

decision I made for myself I said my business is going to help me with my

42:29

lifestyle I want to have I want to call my day I want to call my own schedule and this is what I do I have self-care

42:35

Mondays where I don’t answer the phone it’s all about me I get massages I get my nails done and I go on my walks and I

42:44

hired a chef I haven’t cooked since last September and listen I struggled with

42:51

that when I first I was like but I don’t enjoy cooking I could spend this four

42:57

hours doing something else and I tell you it’s so good to have a

43:02

sh for me and we don’t have to think my husband even was like what’s the big deal we don’t need it now it’s like we

43:09

have a chef who comes every week and make these laish meals for us and every week we’re just getting something

43:15

different it’s like oh my God there’s so much more good on the other side when we say thank you when we’re not trying to

43:23

just hold on to it and be like let me save another dollar let me let me let me save $200 to do this rather than say my

43:32

God what how much more EAS injoy by spending this 200 2,000 10,000 whatever

43:38

it may be is going to bring into my life you know and it’s just like for business

43:43

right my the the the person who Enders my marketing manager like the the money I

43:49

have to pay every month but guess what oh I don’t want to write these emails oh

43:55

I’m I don’t want do you want to sit there and figure out what you’re going to say to your audience I just love the ease of

44:03

getting on the phone once a month and pre-planning the following month and everything and then that is off my list

44:11

don’t you think you’re gonna make more money when when she told me her price I was

44:16

like make it make sense Jesus please like but I was like okay Jesus make this

44:23

make sense please but I went back I was like hiring her would definitely free up

44:30

my time I would send more email and guess what I’m making more money yesil

44:37

you know yes yes 43% of my sales come from my our emails before I hired her

44:46

16% hello yeah exactly well and I think that’s so so I it’s just it’s like

44:53

thinking as I love what you shared about Tony Robinson in because you have to learn to think as the woman who has what

44:59

you want that’s it period end of story yeah I have to tell you Marie CLA

45:04

I am this is probably one of my favorite interviews ever and we’re over a hundred on the podcast now and I’ve had so many

45:10

amazing guests but I’m gonna go back like you spoke to my soul you you spoke to my soul today and and I know that you

45:18

did to everyone who’s listening so I want to let me just ask you so I want to ask let’s start with where people can

45:25

connect with you and then we do one final piece of advice so where can where can everyone find you where can they connect with you they want to like soak

45:30

up this am freaking amazing energy tell them where they can go spend time with

45:36

you and how they can buy from you and all of that tell them that please so personally to connect with me you can

45:42

find me on Instagram my personal hashtag is marclair

45:48

90210 I’m pretty active so if you send me a DM I will I will reply and then my

45:54

business if you like to buy our amazing serums or vitamin C serum um is acne

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expert skincare and we have skincare products for everyone whether you have dry skin normal skin oily acne dark

46:09

spots you’re looking for some anti-aging beautiful skin we have

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everything there for you so that’s acne expert skincare.com so amazing and what

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would be so if you had one opportunity to give one final piece of advice to the

46:26

woman who’s looking to break through her for six figures or Beyond in sales what would it be oh my God it sounds so

46:33

simple listen to your heart listen to your heart it always

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knows always I do that all the time now it

46:46

makes the journey a lot more easy it’s more ease more fun more grace this is

46:55

where the divine Divine reside and then once you listen from the heart there’ll

47:00

be coherence in the brain as well and you make better decision that are not in

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fear right and once you just stay still

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listen take action you don’t have to know the whole chicken Kaboodle how am I

47:16

gonna do it how just take the next step take the next step and don’t forget to have fun please put your nails done go

47:23

on long walks go on trips enjoy the journey because it is never done you’ll

47:30

never get it done you’ll never get it done until you go under ground you’ll still be like oh there’s more things

47:36

that I wanted to do so you might as well have fun like that’s what I tell people

47:41

like I just just find way to have pleasure in your day right so if you’re

47:47

gonna work if you’re working from home go find a nice Boutique Hotel and just

47:53

work in the lobby it will change your energy right um if you don’t feel like

47:58

cooking tonight order in right hire a chef just for one meal that’s going to

48:04

change just for if you can’t afford her for the entire month just afford her just come cook for me for one meal it’s

48:11

gonna change your energy you’re G to allow more ease Embrace into your life

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it has certainly work for me it really has so feeling good is the work listen

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to your heart it’s never done you’re are where you are and and don’t be too hard

48:30

on yourself allow yourself some Grace please allow yourself some Grace as well

48:36

and U and I love you guys I love you God this was this was so amazing thank

48:44

you from the bottom of my heart thank you thank you thank you so everyone go oh my gosh like

48:52

listen to this a million times I know I’m going to connect with Marie CLA on

48:57

social media and um oh my gosh I’m trying to it’s like how do I wrap this beautiful conversation just that ease

49:05

that remembrance that feeling is the work and that that actually will unlock and open you up to everything you desire

49:12

so thank you Marie Claire thank you everyone listening and oh my gosh go out

49:17

and have a beautiful week and I will see you next week for our next episode bye

49:23

for now everybody take care