Cultivate Undeniable Confidence with Erin and Sarit Attwood

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Welcome to She Sells Radio. I am so

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excited to bring you our guest today

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because if you are like me you are

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constantly looking for ways to optimize

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your life and your productivity both at

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work and at home and my guest today is

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an absolute expert in productivity

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organization helping us feel good on top

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of our days on top of our to-do list

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which I am here for it now especially

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with two Littles under four so my guest

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today is Mridu Parikh, she is the founder of

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life is organized she’s a best-selling

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author her book is called accomplish it

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which I love and she’s the host of the

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productivity on purpose podcast which I

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was super honored to go on recently uh

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she also has two two teen kids and she

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understands mom life at a deep level

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mixed with entrepreneur life so Mridu,

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welcome to the podcast I am so happy to

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have you here today thanks for having me

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we had such a great time when you on my

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podcast which everyone should go and

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listen to and I got such great feedback

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on you and so I’m just so honored to be

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here thanks for having me oh thank you

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well this is like one of my favorite

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topics in conversations and I know it is

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for our audience as well when I look at

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the episodes with the highest rankings a

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number of them are time productivity and

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especially now with two little boys more

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than ever like I love a check I have to

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I literally have to have a checklist I

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was trying to prep breakfast this

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morning not breakfast lunches this

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morning for both the boys and my husband

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who was like hey can we talk about our

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schedule later today I said don’t

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interrupt me I’m in focus mode right now

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one thing at a time so I’ve kind of

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become this person who needs so much

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more order and organization than I used

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to um and I think that’s normal right as

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our lives grow and expand we need more

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order but uh but we don’t always feel

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like things are organized we feel we can

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feel overwhelmed we can feel behind now

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I so that’s why I’m so excited to have

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you on today to talk about all of this

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tell us a little bit about your

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background first so you were a

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professional organizer is that right

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before you started your business and

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tell me a little bit about what got you

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into that your journey and what it’s

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been like to move into thought

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leadership and coaching and working with

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clients in this way yeah well when I was

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back in the day working in corporate in

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New York City I like you had had a

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little baby and felt like my nanny was

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bringing him up we were in New York we

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had an opportunity to move to Nashville

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which was not the it City it was 18

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years ago it was not cool but the way my

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husband got me there was he said listen

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if you go you don’t have to work and I’m

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like sign me up sister or brother sign

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me up we’re there and although I then I

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have my second son when I got here and

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shortly realized that I really love my

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work I want to get back to work but I

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don’t want to get back to the corporate

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grind so I started on this

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entrepreneurial Journey really probably

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like many entrepreneurs entrepreneurs

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having no business getting into business

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but I did and I started with home

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organizing at a time when it was before

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The Container Store and the home edit it

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was you know again also no one knew what

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it was um and it was it was wonderful I

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loved it except I realized that what I

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loved about it was not the physically

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going in and doing homes but like

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teaching people I didn’t love that they

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were leaning on me I loved when they

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were learning from me yeah so I took my

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business online and started teaching DIY

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classes and workshops and online

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products and over time so now my kids

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are growing up we have the business and

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I’m realizing I am just not using my

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time well unlike you I was not I was not

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where you are right now I was just

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flailing a lot I was couldn’t prioritize

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I was feeling overwhelmed sometimes I

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just feel like a failure at the end of

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the day and so I just went on a personal

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development Journey um to figure out how

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to prioritize and use my time better and

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I wish I could say it happened overnight

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but um you know a couple years later

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when I came out on the other side and I

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really literally saw my life just

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transform I was like I know there are

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other entrepreneurs and other

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professionals that are struggling with

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the same things and so I mve my business

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again TR made another transition to

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productivity and time management and now

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that’s what I do now I get to coach and

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train and you know my vision my goal is

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to help people be in control of their

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intentions and their attention so it

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creates a a ripple effective impact

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across their careers and their personal

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lives wow intention and attention it’s

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so oh my gosh it’s so important and yet

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one of the most challenging things right

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like last night I was doing some sales

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followup I don’t scroll Instagram that’s

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like not my thing but at this potential

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client who I was talking to she and I

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were most connected in DM so I go to

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send her a message and like 10 minutes

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later I’m looking up from someone’s real

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like why am I even here in the first

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place yeah so maybe easier said than

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done maybe that’s a limiting belief I

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don’t know right this is something you

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help people with so tell us a little bit

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about I know you talk about there’s this

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one thing that holds women back from

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reaching their goals even though they’re

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working so hard maybe it’s tied in to

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what you just shared I don’t know but

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tell us what is that and how do we

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circumnavigate that yeah it really is

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you know you know when you work so hard

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you work so hard all day from the mo

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moment you know you open your eyes till

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you go to bed you’re doing all the

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things for all the people and yet at the

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end of the day you can have that feeling

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like what did I get done today and it’s

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so frustrating because you are putting

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in so much energy and possibly even

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burning out right and feeling exhausted

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and still you’re feeling like I don’t

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even feel accomplished today and I think

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that so that one thing then that we

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really are lacking it is this is part of

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this intention and attention is the

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focus or the clarity might be another

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word is really just having the clarity

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on what is most important to me and what

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am I willing to sacrifice so that I can

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that I can stay focused on those

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important priorities and here’s the

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thing I bet if I anyone listening if I

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asked anybody here hey what’s the most

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important things in your life you could

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probably say things like you know

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probably my business my family my health

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right there there’s usually those top

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few my relationships yeah but then if I

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took a look at your calendar let’s say

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it would not be aligned with those

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priorities maybe with business a lot but

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some of the other things seem to go to

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the Wayside or or maybe it’s the

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opposite or maybe we’re spending so much

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time on

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other things that we’re not getting to

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the business right other distractions

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and so it’s getting very clear and

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honest and introspective about what is

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truly most important I really love

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journaling I think it’s such a cathartic

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exercise of writing this out and seeing

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it in front of you and being okay wait

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if these are my top four you know

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priorities in my life how am I really

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showing up for them how am I addressing

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them are they part of my

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daytoday strategy my day-to-day thinking

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my day-to-day scheduling and routine you

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know how how am I really am I letting

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other things get in the way and I think

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it really starts with that Clarity and

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then if you want to go deeper we can say

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okay well then where do we go from that

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but it’s it’s getting Crystal Clear not

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just saying it in your mind or thinking

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it but really like writing that down

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almost like a Manifesto like these are

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the things and how do I start creating

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the space and the energy around those

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yeah okay now I love this and I’ve done

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I I’ve done that in different times of

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life and it’s interesting because I feel

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like as we evolve that changes too and

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especially if we have kids um like right

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now it’s been so interesting moving to

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Maine and having to reestablish child

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care and we were able to get Jack our

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oldest in school with coverage five days

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a week which I don’t part my mama heart

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always feels a little conflicted about

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that to be honest like he loves school

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he thrives in it um I don’t use it all

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the time but I like having it to have

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the coverage and then our littlest Luke

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though he’s not old enough to go in so

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he goes to someone’s home three days a

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week then he’s home with me two days a

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week but prior to that I had five days a

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week cover so it’s just so interesting

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as we navigate these different seasons

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of life it almost feels like we need to

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reassess I don’t know quarterly annually

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maybe that’s too long of a get but analy

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like where where is my focus where is my

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priorities uh where are my priorities

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right now and then how can I readjust or

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rearrange my calendar to help reflect

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that right so do you encourage your

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clients to do that on any sort of

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regular basis just as Life Changes go on

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and

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situations adjust absolutely like I love

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the idea of an annual plan I think it’s

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it’s important it’s important as

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business owners as just CEOs of our life

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but I do feel like it’s really far out

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like some you know it’s just it’s hard

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to hold on to a goal that’s a year away

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so then yeah I love to break it down to

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quarters you know let look more 90 days

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out and then really on the month and the

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week too you know so when I work with my

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clients I’m like we always say I always

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tell them what is what are your top

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three goals for this week let’s just

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bring it back to like your dayto day

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because it’s just too far out out now

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most likely it’s going to be tied to

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your quarterly and annual goals but it

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can be different right because life is

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always shifting it’s always evolving um

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you know for let’s say this week if I’m

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I’m not feeling really well so like this

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week a priority is going to be my rest

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and selfcare maybe more so than another

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week right when when the priorities are

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different but getting very intentional

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right the intention the attention very

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intentional about what are those goals

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right now um and you we got to start

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there it’s like reverse engineering from

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the those goals or and working backwards

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and fitting them in versus I feel like

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we’re trying to get everything done in

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our in our lives and then we’re trying

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to squeeze in the priorities right

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instead of making those priorities first

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and then squeezing in all the other

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stuff around it oh I like how you said

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that yeah and that’s how we feel so when

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I started I said you know we feel like

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we got nothing done it’s a terrible

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feeling but when you’ve hit those bigger

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priorities every day week yeah then you

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don’t end that way even though you’re

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working you’re work kind hard s you’re

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putting in the energy but you’re like I

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just feel so much more accomplished I

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feel so much more successful rewarded

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just because I was I was able to move

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the needle on those things that matter

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the most to me I was journaling the

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other day about this concept of living a

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rich life right because we’ve got a lot

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of listeners who they they come and a

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part of my brand and what people are

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here for is how do I generate more money

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more abundance more more financial flow

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and I think was definitely a time in my

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life when I was so focused on just the

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money that everything else went to the

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Wayside relationships Health self-care

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if you asked me what hobbies I had I

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would have looked at you like a dared

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headlights and so this this journaling

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exercise of like what is a real rich

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life so much more came about from it of

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like I care about ultimately it’s

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experiences right and I bet a lot of our

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listeners may feel the same way like

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experiences right time with the the kids

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making memories laughing um obviously

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business success and money success is

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important but it was so much more robust

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than just I want to make x amount of

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money every year which is where where my

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mindset was years ago I’m curious from

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your perspective Mridu, how much of this

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is mindset for women and I’ll give a

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little context for that question too

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because you mentioned towards the

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beginning you know giving yourself

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permission to really look at what

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actually matters in life versus what

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doesn’t yeah and I think a lot of the

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women especially the women in our

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audience who listen have been

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conditioned that I’m only successful if

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I’m working eight hours a day if I’m

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grinding if I’m hustling that’s the only

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way to be successful it’s push and not

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that I’m not about intentional action I

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am but I remember several years ago when

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I I worked with a mentor who was running

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a multi-million dollar business and she

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worked three days a week not three days

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a week excuse me three hours a day

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raising three young kids and part of

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what attracted me to like I want to know

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your mindset where you don’t feel like

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you have to work all the time and yet

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you can bring in way more money and be

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successful and also be present as a mom

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but I see women like almost holding

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themselves back with this belief of the

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only way to be successful is if I’m

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working 40 to 60 hours a day there’s no

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way I’ll accomplish my income goals

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speak a little bit that so I feel like

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there’s some friction there for a lot of

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people 100% I believe that success is

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less about doing and more about planning

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so in terms of like time management or

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productivity right is way more about

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planning okay so if there’s something

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you you have to you would tell yourself

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I think in the time when you’re like I’m

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hustling and everything’s hitting me and

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my phone is blowing up and my email is

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going crazy the most counterintuitive

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thought is let me just step back and

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plan right the number one thing you want

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to do is react you you want to just like

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put your head down let me slam through

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this let me go through it but what

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happens is you you’re coming from that

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reactionary place where you’re just

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throwing in energy not really thinking

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it through trying to cross things off

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the list you’re still G to end up and

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that day you’re still gonna be like I

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got nothing done today right and and

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you’re just like you’re feeling

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exhausted and burnt out if you do the

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thing that’s really counterintuitive and

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it’s hard in the moment but you can

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train yourself is pull yourself out of

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the chaos momentarily 10 minutes right

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and sit and just plan and think okay

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here’s my laundry list of things to do

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what are my three most important like

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top priorities for the rest of this day

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I only have a certain amount of time I

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got to go pick up the kids and I got to

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run to this meeting and I have a zoom so

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if I could pick three things what would

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make me feel most successful tonight and

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that is actually the question that I

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always ask myself ask my clients to ask

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themselves is not again you know not

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what what’s what’s the I don’t I don’t

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know how else you might look at it but

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what’s what’s the um you know most

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important in any other aspect of what

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would make me feel most successful so

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typically the things that make you feel

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most successful are the things that

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you’ve procrastinated right the things

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that you’re thinking about when you go

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to bed at night you’re like can’t

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believe I didn’t work out again or I

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can’t believe I didn’t do that thing

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again or that I yeah I got through a lot

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of my emails but that one email that’s

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been sitting there for two weeks because

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it takes me time to think of the the

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response didn’t do that again right yes

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so that is actually a great way to

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determine you know what that is because

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that’s I think a hard thing you’re like

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well how do I just pick three

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everything’s important what would make

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you feel best when you’re in bed at

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night and you’re thinking okay today was

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you know a great day that’s and plan for

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those and then plan take that time to

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plan or look at that list and say okay

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wait I’m I’m just reacting reacting what

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can I delegate right now or what can I

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how can I respond to a client or

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somebody else and let them put up and

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better boundaries and let them know you

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know what I’ll have this to you just let

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you know it’s the end of the week like

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it all of that comes from the thinking

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planning strategizing space okay and

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it’s the complete opposite of reacting

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and getting through your list and it’s

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just the hardest I think it’s what

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you’re saying it’s like it’s that

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mindset it really starts with I don’t

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need to do more I need to plan more okay

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that’s I’ve never heard anyone say it

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exactly that way but it makes total

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sense and I love I love the focus on

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what would make me feel most successful

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and it is so funny as you’re talking

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about this R I’m thinking about yep I’ve

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got my list and yep I’ve got things on

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my list that I’m like they’re staying on

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the list and I’m not taking action on

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them yet because there’s resistance they

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feel hard there’s what you know whatever

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number of things going on with them so

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that’s a really good way of putting it

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and prioritizing those I want to ask you

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I want to ask you some like tactical

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questions about your Bel and I think

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people have different perspectives on

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this so I’m not I don’t know if there’s

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a one siiz fits all solution but I’ve

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heard different things I’m just curious

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your perspective to-do lists versus

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scheduling in your calendar what do you

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tell your clients to

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do I tell them there’s a marriage

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between the to-do list and the calendar

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and I don’t believe one works well

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without the other that is a true it’s a

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true intersection it’s a true marriage

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they come together and I can’t say they

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don’t work well okay so actually let me

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backtrack can say first of all the

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system that works is a system that

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you’ll use yeah that’s that’s the number

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one thing right so I could tell you five

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different systems if you’re not going to

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use any of them they’re useless so if

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you’re using a to-do list it’s working

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great for you fantastic if you’re using

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just your calendar it’s working great

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for you fantastic but for most people

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we’ve tried that entrepreneurs

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especially we have so many demands and

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so many distractions and it’s it’s just

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kind of falling it’s just a failing it’s

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not working so to me that the

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intersection between the two the

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marriage of them both is where like

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where the gold is you know where it

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happens where the magic happens so it’s

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actually having your to-do list and

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that’s just kind of step one and it but

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is very important brain dumping breaking

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things down there’s kind of a whole Art

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and Science to a really good to-do list

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okay and then taking that and putting

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those picking those let’s say we’ll

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stick to the top three that’s what I

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just talked about pick those top three

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and put them actually on your calendar

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just like you would you’re picking up

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your kids from school or your client

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meeting or your hair appointment you put

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them on there because there’s a really

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interesting thing that happens it’s

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mind-blowing everything seems to make

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sense when it’s on the list right that’s

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why we can see 12 things and in our

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minds even though we are professionals

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we are smart we have degrees in your

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mind your mind is going to say oh yeah

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you could totally finish those 12 things

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today right and then you get three done

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and then you feel like crap because

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you’re like oh I always fail it’s a

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self-sabotaging cycle I never I never do

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what I set out to do you know it’s just

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very bad now if you pull those 10 and

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you actually tried to put them on your

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calendar you’d be like there’s no way

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there’s no way they were going to fit

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with everything else on my schedule

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today it is called it’s a belief bias we

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believe we can get more done than we

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actually can it’s just like a

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psychological thing so there’s nothing

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wrong with us or not that we’re not

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smart but we have to actually visually

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see it most people most people have to

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actually see it so what it allows you to

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do is say okay the 10’s not going to fit

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maybe five’s not even going to fit maybe

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just four or three and it it forc forces

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you then forces you to prioritize the

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most important and really think through

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the day and the implications and the con

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oh okay well then if I do that we have

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to drive here and you know it just gets

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you kind of really thinking and that’s

18:39

where that planning comes in right so

18:41

it’s like I’m not even doing at that

18:43

moment but if I could plan my day really

18:45

well I’m going to feel much better so

18:47

instead of me thinking I’m going to get

18:48

10 done I get three done I feel terrible

18:51

how about I think I’m just going to get

18:52

three done yeah I put three in my

18:54

calendar I get three done now it’s 100%

18:57

success and I feel amazing amazing when

18:58

I go to bed at night you know yes and

19:01

that feeling um is is what keeps you

19:05

motivated it’s what inspiring for you

19:07

the next day you know it’s just feeling

19:09

like I’m in control you know I am I’m

19:13

successful I achieve what I set out to

19:16

do these are all the signals that were

19:18

sending our brain versus I failed again

19:21

I can never keep on top of things I’m

19:23

always behind right and that’s the

19:25

signal then you know and as you know

19:27

it’s like your beliefs and your SCS and

19:28

it all actions and so how do we keep

19:31

that belief system positive well we’ve

19:34

got to back it up with that planning and

19:36

and setting out for the right

19:38

actions wow oh my gosh I love this so so

19:41

much and I don’t think we have time for

19:44

it today but I’m really intrigued by

19:45

this Art and Science of the good to-do

19:47

list like you were talking about before

19:50

maybe people could get resources on that

19:52

from your website or your yeah I know

19:54

we’ll share all of that but I’m very

19:55

intrigued by that too so it’s a marriage

19:58

makes total sense that’s kind of what

20:00

mine is doing right now so I feel okay I

20:03

can breathe that piece is we’re doing

20:05

okay I’m curious one more tactical

20:08

question and um and then this is so good

20:11

I’m like I could talk to you forever

20:13

forever forever and

20:15

ever I’m curious though your take on

20:19

inbox zero this is very selfishly a

20:21

coaching session for elase where I share

20:23

all the areas where I’ve over the years

20:24

been like what is best what’s the what’s

20:27

the best approach so what’s your take on

20:29

that especially with by the way all the

20:31

inboxes there’s like 12 inboxes right

20:33

social media email phone so yeah go

20:37

ahead yeah um I don’t I don’t have inbox

20:40

zero okay uh I think that it’s there’s a

20:43

lot of pressure out there to do a

20:44

million things right starting from not

20:46

just inbox zero but I should wake up and

20:48

stand on my head for 10 minutes and

20:49

journal and meditate and have green

20:51

juice and you know and be the best mom

20:53

and I just you know there’s just so much

20:55

pressure to do all these things that

20:57

quote unquote what all the experts do

20:59

and everybody does and I you know at the

21:01

end of the day I think you’ve got to do

21:02

what works for you and what makes you

21:05

feel good so I’m totally fine having I

21:07

don’t I don’t have hundreds and hundreds

21:09

of thousands of emails in my inbox I

21:11

have 50,000 emails in my archive box

21:14

like they’re there they’re there in my

21:16

inbox I probably have I don’t know a

21:18

dozen two dozen three it just depends on

21:19

the day and I feel okay about that like

21:22

that doesn’t make me I don’t need to see

21:24

a zero to feel good right again you’re

21:25

going to say always bringing it back to

21:27

your emotional state

21:28

yes but if if that is stressing you out

21:30

then maybe you want to strive for a

21:31

little less but if you’re like you know

21:32

what I have clients who are like I have

21:34

a 100 in there and it’s fine and it

21:36

doesn’t or hundreds like in their inbox

21:38

hundreds thousand and it’s fine I only

21:40

look at the top ones that’s fine too I I

21:42

ultimately you know it’s going to have

21:44

to be kind your own determination for me

21:47

I’m not striving for a zero but I but I

21:49

do like I do a like anxiety if it’s more

21:51

than maybe you know something like right

21:54

I have them broken up as um have used

21:56

Gmail so they have like in the

21:58

promotions there’s like four different

22:00

categories and if it’s below the fold

22:02

like if I can’t see it on my screen you

22:05

know if the emails are going lower than

22:06

my screen then I know it’s too much

22:08

that’s like literally my okay that’s a

22:09

good way thinking about it for me for me

22:11

just mentally I just it feels like okay

22:12

I can handle that that’s not too much

22:14

when it starts going below that I’m like

22:16

I really got to clean this stuff up so

22:18

use your own determination of what’s

22:19

going to like cause you anxiety but

22:21

don’t do it just because everybody says

22:23

the guru is do it or that’s the right

22:25

way it’s no no yeah right just like

22:28

being a mom there’s a million different

22:30

different ways to raise your kids and

22:32

you know there’s no right or wrong yeah

22:34

absolutely now what you’re sharing is so

22:36

good and aligns with a lot of what we

22:38

teach in different ways when just

22:40

yesterday I was teaching strategy and

22:42

method to a group of entrepreneurs and

22:44

sales professionals and the thing we

22:45

said was like every strategy can work

22:48

there’s no one right strategy it’s your

22:50

belief system in it your belief level in

22:53

it and what works for you what’s

22:54

supposed to align for you so I feel like

22:55

you’re saying that here with time too

22:57

which I love because I think anyone says

22:59

this is the only way for everyone I’m

23:01

automatically like H I don’t know and

23:03

antenna is up a little bit so I love

23:04

that you’re saying choose the system

23:06

that works for you and then also one

23:08

thing I’m really taking with me that I’m

23:10

going to use is what would make me feel

23:13

most successful today so what three

23:15

things would make me feel most

23:17

successful today start with those and

23:19

then if more gets done great but if not

23:22

you’re going to have that feeling of

23:23

success which is going to breed more

23:26

success every day every day yeah yeah

23:29

imagine you got three things off your

23:31

procrastinated list it’s your to-do list

23:33

here’s my procrastinated list and I even

23:35

you even knocked off two of them how

23:36

great are you going to feel it’s it’s

23:38

such an it’s like really 50 pounds off

23:40

your shoulders right you’re just because

23:42

you carry that with you every day it

23:44

just it it’s funny because we

23:46

procrastinate because we think it’s

23:48

going to make us feel better because

23:50

we’re not doing the thing right so we’re

23:51

going to go towards the thing that makes

23:53

us feel good so instead of writing that

23:54

hard email let me get on Instagram or do

23:56

something else so we basically going to

23:58

the the the more gratifying thing but

24:01

what ends up happening is the thing that

24:02

we think is going to make us feel better

24:03

makes us feel worse because we we

24:05

continue to put off we continue to

24:07

procrastinate that thing so now it gets

24:09

heavier and heavier and heavier and it

24:11

feels like it’s going to take me longer

24:13

and it’s going to be harder and like so

24:15

it’s such a it’s so funny how we all do

24:18

it right but like the thing we’re trying

24:19

to avoid is what we are you know

24:23

increasing so good oh my gosh it’s so

24:26

that’s exactly right it’s all it’s

24:28

opposite it’s like opposite think right

24:32

yes that’s amazing tell everyone so

24:35

let’s let’s this is so great I so

24:36

appreciate you coming on and sharing and

24:38

again like I said a lot of times these

24:39

conversations are selfishly coaching

24:42

sessions for me where I get to hear from

24:44

different experts in their fields uh

24:46

what you know what works for them and

24:48

and I apply it and it’s beautiful any

24:51

other final word of advice for high

24:54

achieving driven female entrepreneurs

24:56

sales professionals who want more out of

24:59

life and want to also really enjoy what

25:03

they’re doing enjoy their experience of

25:05

Life what would you say any final words

25:06

of advice yeah i’ say one of the biggest

25:10

issues that is undervalued we don’t

25:11

always see is our lack of

25:14

boundaries

25:16

and we teach people how to treat us so

25:22

our actions are speaking miles right so

25:24

if we if we react to the text all the

25:27

time if we’re immediately going back to

25:29

the email if we allow the calls at any

25:31

time of night if you’re on your laptop

25:33

at 9:00 and and by the way if you doing

25:35

any of these things and you choose to

25:36

that’s fine but if you start teaching

25:39

people that these are the expectations

25:42

right that that you’re going to be there

25:43

at their becking call or there’s no

25:45

saying no or I’m always available there

25:48

is a difference you know for being a

25:49

great customer service which I know we

25:51

all want and be great client service and

25:54

act having boundaries and I will tell

25:56

you people respect other people with

25:59

boundaries more so I again it’s so

26:02

counterintuitive we think that if I’m

26:04

there all the time I’m always responding

26:05

they’re going to really respect me and

26:07

highly regard me and I and I just I

26:09

would just challenge your listener to

26:11

think about in in your own life the

26:14

person or it could be a personal person

26:16

be some

26:18

professional that you know when I text

26:20

them they’re not going to respond to the

26:21

next morning or the next day or the you

26:23

know and not in a bad way not and not

26:25

the person who doesn’t respond for two

26:26

weeks we’re not talking about that or

26:28

the person who says no you know what I’m

26:30

really I have too much going on on my

26:31

plate this weekend can we do it another

26:33

time right and just think about that

26:35

person because I know we can all think

26:36

of them and how much respect do you have

26:39

for them to be able to uphold those

26:41

boundaries and say well this is what’s

26:43

important to me and this is what’s not

26:45

instead instead of just reacting all the

26:48

time and letting other people’s urgency

26:50

become your urgency when we’re talking

26:52

about how we feel if we’re talking about

26:54

intention and attention if we’re talking

26:55

about taking control of Our Lives

26:58

it’s got to start with with ourselves

27:01

with ourselves putting up those

27:03

boundaries so I know we could have a

27:04

whole another discussion on that I’m

27:06

sure you talk about that a lot too but

27:08

it is it is so important and it’s so

27:11

funny because when I when I speak with

27:13

clients or we’re about to start working

27:15

together that doesn’t come up so much

27:17

it’s almost like they don’t know that

27:18

like an issue if you you know it’s like

27:20

a blind spot and nine out of 10 times

27:23

that is where we’re starting it’s just

27:25

like okay let’s just really talk about

27:26

this boundary what boundary do you have

27:28

here and and why are you feeling like

27:31

you can’t say no or you can’t put up

27:33

this boundary and what’s holding you

27:34

back we start really getting to the root

27:36

of it and breaking that down and it’s

27:38

just amazing coming out on the other

27:39

side you know incredible oh my gosh yes

27:43

amen amen it’s something I’ve been

27:44

thinking about a lot in my own life and

27:45

I’ve done a lot of work on and uh and

27:48

continue to work on every single day

27:50

right I think it’s something we all get

27:51

to all the time so I love that tell

27:54

everyone Mridu, where can people go to

27:56

connect with you I’d love if you want to

27:57

share a little bit about your podcast

27:59

any resources that you have this is like

28:01

this is so so helpful well thank you for

28:04

letting me share I mean since you’re

28:05

listening to this you might just come on

28:07

over and enjoy the productivity on

28:09

purpose podcast it is tailored to women

28:12

business owners a lot of the topics

28:14

we’ve been talking about today just

28:16

helping you live less stressful less

28:20

overwhelming lives feeling more in

28:22

control and more joyful about everything

28:24

in your personal life and your

28:25

professional life so I’d love to you

28:27

come over there and listen to that and

28:29

also lifeisorganized.com

28:31

resources there are some resources there

28:33

on getting focused feeling less

28:35

overwhelmed if you’re more like just a

28:36

paper person and like to read and email

28:38

then come on over and grab those too

28:40

amazing amazing thank you so much this

28:43

was such a fun conversation I feel like

28:45

I crave this type of conversation right

28:48

now in this season of my life so you

28:51

shared some really actionable tangible

28:53

things as well as some really powerful

28:54

mindset shifts that we can make to help

28:57

us feel feel more productive more

28:58

organized and more purposeful in our in

29:01

our work and in our lives so thank you

29:03

so much Mridu, thank you for having me

29:05

absolutely all right and to you my

29:07

listener I know that you loved this and

29:09

enjoyed this as much as I did definitely

29:12

check out Mridu’s podcast uh check out

29:14

her resources we’ll link everything in

29:16

the show notes and I trust that you feel

29:20

as empowered as I do following this

29:22

conversation as always thank you so much

29:25

for being a listener of She Sells Radio

29:27

and I’ll see you on our next episode bye

29:28

for

29:30

now.

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Welcome to  She Sells Radio I am so excited for the conversation that you’re going to get to hear today uh one because it’s

0:09

an incredible topic and two I get to have this conversation and bring you uh

0:14

two of my favorite people on the planet these two have quickly become just some women who I absolutely admire adore I

0:21

think are incredible I’ve got Erin and Serit Attwood on the podcast for you today so we are going to be talking

0:27

today about how to cultivate undeniable confidence which is such a Hot Topic in

0:34

our community and I don’t think I’ve ever spoken with a woman who didn’t want to grow and improve in this area of her

0:40

life myself included I’m always looking to grow my confidence my self-belief my self-empowerment and you are going to

0:47

get to learn from two absolute experts who walk the talk in this area today so

0:52

let me tell you a little bit about my guests who they are who you’re going to be learning from and then we’re going to dive in so Erin and Serit are the

1:00

co-founders of immun of strength a health wellness and self-discipline movement for high performers which if

1:06

you are listening to this podcast I am 99 100% sure that you identify as a high

1:12

performer Aid and have helped thousands of women worldwide become the most confident version of themselves by

1:19

creating mental and physical strength they they help driven women discover the

1:24

gaps that are holding them back from reaching their Highest Potential in all areas of their life mastering their

1:29

health Fitness discipline and mental fortitude so they never have to be on a diet which also we love and these two

1:35

body transformation experts have over 25 years of combined experience in the health and fitness space they’ve been

1:42

featured on listen to this muscle and fitness hers magazine the Discovery Channel which I didn’t know by the way

1:48

is incredibly cool and more so Erin and Serit welcome to She Sells Radio I am so

1:54

excited to have you both today I think that’s the best anybody’s intro us before well at leisa’s voice is

2:01

like it’s a radio voice

2:07

baby  She Sells Radio, She Sells Radio I didn’t think about it when I was

2:12

naming the show what a tongue twister it was going to be for other people you all get it though you you get it you’re with me I’m so happy to have you both you two

2:20

are just such bright lights in the world and like I was saying um in the intro

2:25

you two really embody what we’re going to be talking about to today and so I

2:31

want to dive in we’ll we’ll kind of weave throughout the conversation a little bit more of both of your backgrounds and how you got into this

2:37

work but I just want to start right off with this topic of undeniable confidence

2:43

what does this mean to you and why is it something that you’re so passionate about in your own life and then also

2:49

helping other women cultivate in their lives too I I don’t know about you but I don’t

2:55

know a single person who wakes up and is like I hope I’m not confident today I hope that I’m scared to do everything

3:02

today I hope that I am afraid of people I hope that I hope that um I’m I’m I’m

3:08

concerned about people judging me and so I feel like you

3:14

know everybody is everybody wants what they want here on this Earth whatever it

3:21

is and if we don’t have confidence we will have a very difficult time getting

3:28

it whatever ever it is that we want if you’re afraid to talk to somebody if you

3:34

are concerned with what people are thinking about you if you feel like

3:39

you’re not living up to your potential you just don’t show up in the same way

3:45

you you’re show even just your physiological Vision like the view is

3:52

your shoulders are slumped heads down you know um it’s low energy and so it’s

3:59

really hard to go after what you want when you’re in that position and so it’s so powerful because it’s like hey we all

4:06

everybody wants to be happy period and one of the ways that we get happy is by feeling like we’re getting what we want

4:12

yeah a lot of people think on the surface it’s a car a house a family or whatever but it’s something that those

4:18

things give you that’s internal that you really want fulfillment love you know

4:24

some kind of satisfaction and so if you want to get those things you better up your confidence confidence gain yeah wow

4:32

amen amen Ser anything you add to that yeah yeah so to me confidence is

4:39

leadership you know if you look at any leader they the I believe that the

4:46

greatest leaders and I actually heard this today when I was listening to a segment is that the greatest leaders

4:53

exude confidence and also humility at the same time I believe that it’s it’s

4:58

such a like great way to describe it because confidence gives you the courage

5:04

to play a bigger game yeah right like for your audience like whether it’s you

5:10

know generating greater income expand expansion in life right like money

5:15

touches every part of our lives like you got to have the confidence to believe it you got to have the confidence to get

5:22

after it and you got to have the confidence to believe that you’re worthy

5:27

of receiving it yes yes I’m curious for both of you

5:33

because someone who’s watching the video or listening to you talk they’re going to see both of you or hear even just hear the intonation in your voice and

5:40

like these women are confident like you absolutely are and I feel that from you

5:45

and I want to hear your perspective on cultivating this if someone’s listening and they’re like I’m in a place where I

5:52

don’t feel really confident maybe I’ve never felt confident in my life or maybe I’m confident in certain areas and not

5:58

in others so there’s all these different different ways this can play out in our life but have you both always felt like

6:05

you were naturally confident it’s totally okay if you have I think some people are maybe boring with that um but

6:11

if not maybe tell us about a time when you didn’t feel confident and how did

6:17

you start to cultivate that in yourself and transform that for yourself so good great question

6:24

go yeah so first and foremost for a longer portion of my life I did not feel

6:30

confident but I always knew that I was different and I always knew that I was special so that’s what made me believe

6:37

that I could become that so I believe that the gateway to confidence is

6:42

self-discipline now something to note about confidence is that while in

6:48

general if you see me nowadays you will see a confident version of me and the

6:56

thing about confidence is that it’s really perishable so every single day our confidence is back to zero right

7:03

that’s why I’m a firm proponent in discipline because discipline allows allows me to continuously gain my

7:11

confidence especially during difficult days when I do not feel confident in myself I have this thing that I can look

7:19

back at and it is how I showed up for myself I believe that without discipline one cannot be confident because when

7:26

we’re disciplined we’re being ethical and we’re leading in Integrity with our

7:32

word and when we’re not leading with discipline then what ends up happening is we’re not been true to ourselves

7:39

right so that touches our self for wow wow I’ve never I want to just pause Aon

7:44

before you add in um your perspective on that I don’t think I’ve ever heard it said that way that confidence is

7:51

perishable that’s that’s super interesting to me and it makes sense too

7:57

um because if we think about it that way it’s like every every single day we have the opportunity to show up we have the

8:03

opportunity to um do better I mean even I’m just thinking about in my own life

8:08

yesterday I I’m an early riser and I set the alarm early and I like you both do

8:15

this too but for some reason I didn’t get up with the alarm I don’t know if it didn’t go off I don’t know what happened but I woke up late and I

8:21

[Music] was we’re gonna we’re gonna go with that

8:27

we’re gonna go with that we’re gonna go with I didn’t hit it without paying

8:32

attention but I woke up late and then the whole morning was like I don’t cuss a lot on PO but it was like a show

8:38

like I’ll just call it what and I felt off but this morning I woke up woke up early on time got all the things in got

8:44

the workout in and feeling so different as a result of that so it was like back to Ground Zero today so I think that’s

8:51

also a blessing that we get to start again at zero every single day right so

8:58

yeah so Ain anything you would add to that on either just like a time in your life when you didn’t feel confident how

9:03

you overcame that what your own personal Journey has been with that yeah I think

9:08

I’m thinking about this when I was so I think there’s also a difference between confidence and

9:15

ignorance because I’m thinking about when I was a little kid it would have looked like I had confidence but I

9:21

actually probably just didn’t know if I was being judged I was just ignorant I had no clue like kids just I I wouldn’t

9:28

I wouldn’t I don’t know if they’re confident or ignorant because they’re little children they don’t know right

9:34

they don’t understand judgment or you know criticism or anything like that and

9:40

so I think as we grow up we create filters and I I in my own personal

9:49

opinion if I were to have one I don’t think anybody’s born with confidence I you know because we all

9:57

lack it at some point in time yeah every it’s called

10:04

insecurity everybody has them yeah so is anybody really born which this is good

10:10

news if you’ve never felt like a confident person like if be it true or not I don’t know make it your story and

10:17

believe it that nobody’s born with confidence and yeah if that’s the case

10:22

that means that anybody who is confident has developed the skill and if they’ve developed the skill then you can develop

10:28

the skill M and I really do believe it’s born out of action born out of following through

10:34

with our word when you say I’m going to go to the gym and you don’t that’s like somebody saying yeah we’re going to go

10:40

on a date you show up at 5:00 pm and they don’t yeah do you trust them anymore do you have confidence in them

10:48

that they’re going to do what they say they’re going to do no so the same is true for us if we say I’m going to do X

10:55

Y or Z and then we don’t one time okay but then when it happens again and again

11:01

again and again and again it’s hard to believe ourselves it’s hard to have confidence or trust that we are going to show up in any certain way that is

11:08

admirable you know yeah so what I’m hearing from both of you is it really like discipline is that path right and

11:16

so if somebody is listening and maybe they don’t think they’re a disciplined person or maybe I know you know you all

11:22

serve high Achievers we have women and men who would identify as high Achievers who listen to the show as well but maybe

11:27

there’s maybe there’s a part of life where they’re not following through on their word to themselves and they like

11:33

keep breaking that promise whether it’s getting up and working out whether it’s you know certain business goals or

11:39

financial goals and like in this area I’m struggling with discipline I know you all have an incredible app that you

11:46

were just telling me about um in the pre- chat too that you bu like helps people instill those disciplines I know

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how much that discipline is a focus of what you teach but so I I know there’s there’s probably beyond the scope of the

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conversation today in terms of what you teach with helping with discipline but what’s something someone could start

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doing now to start creating greater discipline in that area where maybe they’re struggling with it to start

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building up that confidence I want okay I want to say what not to do first okay let’s do that I love that you just led

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to it you said to start building up which means that super smart you don’t

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just have you build yeah if you’re handed something

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thing you don’t you haven’t built the tools the discipline the skills the

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anything to maintain it to keep it yeah so this is the idea of where people go

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on like a diet they’re like I haven’t eaten good I’ve eaten burgers and pizza

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and ice cream and wings for the last not that wings are the worst thing but whatever you get it for the last hot

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dogs for the last you know 10 years of my life and all of a sudden I’m going to do keto it like it just doesn’t you got to

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graduate to that you’ve got to earn that and so if you’re asking like what can somebody do the smallest thing that you

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truly believe in your heart you could do it for the rest of your life right now so what’s like a step right so

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people will be like in our world they’ll say you know I’m gonna work out six days a January 1 I’m going to the gym six

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days a week but they haven’t for years yeah so what if you could go two times

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and you could just be really good at going two times for like three months

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yeah and then and then you go three times or four times you look back at your life people underestimate what they can do in a

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year because they want everything like I would say everybody but our society our

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culture is like Amazon Prime get it delivered tomorrow yesterday yeah so if we can take take a look at like what’s

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one thing I truly believe I could do it for the rest of my life and not feel like I’m suffering start there just get

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really good at it prove to yourself you can be consistent then this is how our app works too then you build then you

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add got it so it’s a sustainability piece and I love that question of what’s something I could do for the rest of my

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life because that it puts it in perspective and it’s a clarifying question as well right it helps you see

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what am I really like what am I going to be honest with myself about versus where am I just like blowing smoke and I’m not

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there yet so yeah s anything you would add to that yeah and then with regards

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to the rest of my life something that’s just important to discuss as well is that if you can

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based on your current world viiew you saying if like this is something that I

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can Implement for the rest of my life doesn’t mean that it becomes your ultimatum like so many times I hear

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people talk about ultimatums and it’s like let’s not do that because the intention is to evolve and then what is

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the most sustainable for you once you evolve from point A to point B right so like in the Contex of movement if let’s

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say at least right like you got two kids and of course like they they take up a

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lot of time and all of that let’s say if you know for sure that based on your current state like you can commit to

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moving for 15 minutes every single day like you know all in then awesome let’s

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do that and then the concept that I’m getting into is called building the chain

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so think think about think about like from a big picture standpoint right it’s like

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if you were to go and sell a chain okay it was a Golden Chain would you want it

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to be like heavy and long or would you want it to be like little like let’s say

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if your life depended on it like your your family’s Legacy how heavy and what

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would be the worth of that chain so your discipline is like building a chain every day when you follow through with

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that intention you get a loop added to your chain oh and every and then the

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next day when you do you get another loop and another loop right so like for us we created a measurable system in the

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app it measures things for you where you’re able to where you you are progressed based on the size of your

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chain you know what cool interesting yeah I’m thinking about the chain okay let’s say one day you don’t uh oh now

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you can’t continue your you got to start a new chain but that doesn’t mean you lost what you

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built and I think a lot of people think oh I screwed it up so now I’ll just go

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completely the other way but it’s like oh no no no you still have whatever wisdom you built you still have whatever

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lessons you learned you still have this this chain still exists just because

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you’re G to start a new one doesn’t mean that you don’t have what you already built so just take that forward with you

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and now build an even better CH yeah yes I love that I feel like what you’re

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speaking to here is something we talk about a lot in the community too it’s just just continually increasing your

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level of Consciousness right so everything that is so I think we can get when someone’s a high achiever sometimes

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they get caught up in perfectionism which I think is a mask for a lot of fear and like oh I’ll just you know I

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messed up one day I’ll throw the whole thing out the window what you’re saying here is no you still you you’ve evolved your Consciousness to a whole new level

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with every link you’ve put in the chain and then Ser to your point as well it’s

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like maybe there’s a habit or a discipline that’s going to serve you well at this point in your life but then you reach another level of Consciousness

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and it’s okay what’s the there’s something new that I’m going to add in there’s something I’m going to evolve into so it that that progression that

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growth that expansion is continually increasing our level of confidence to higher and higher levels that maybe we

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didn’t even know were possible 1,00% and that’s why like that’s why diet dieting

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or just simply working out is not the solution because it’s some it’s a mechanic it is not a solution yeah

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solution is having a bigger picture perspective and like you said a higher

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level of Consciousness right it’s just like when it comes to let’s say s sales

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or enrollment it’s not just about nailing your pitch like that is yeah right it’s not just about like

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negotiating that’s a mechanic it’s about having if you really think about it a a

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higher level of consciousness with regards to how you show up in the world

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and how you implement emotional intelligence awareness connection

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intimacy right all of it yeah and that’s and and that’s why and that’s when you

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land the message more powerfully that’s all it is it’s an more it’s an energy

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and and an internal work more than it is a mechanic yeah totally this is why we we resonate so much because it’s it’s

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like we teach the same thing in different Avenues right different parts of life so because it’s all enrollment

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so like what we do is we teach people how to be enrolled in themselves when you enrolled in yourself you you can AKA

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confidence I love that enrollment in yourself yes you can enroll anybody on

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anything like watch someone confident like they don’t need to be like they don’t need to know the ins and outs

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about like the the details of the product it is their energy yes yes right

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100% 100% yeah I want to say one thing and then I have like one other topic I

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want to I want to ask you both about um as it pertains to confidence so one

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thing I would just add on to this kind of my own personal reflection is I don’t think it’s a bad thing to not be

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confident in certain areas because I I I think if we’re completely confident in

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every area now I think we can get Confidence from something outside of us something bigger than us like knowing that even if we are new in an area we

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can figure it out and master it but I think if we’re continually pushing and evolving ourselves in any new area we

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haven’t mastered yet we’re not necessarily going to feel completely confident and yet so iuse I I will also

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look at okay if there’s an area that I am I don’t use the word struggling in but an area that I haven’t mastered yet

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or I don’t have that complete confidence yet it’s it’s not a bad thing it means I’m growing as well it’s more of an opportunity to grow rather than like a

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doing something wrong type of thing so side note that I would just you know add into this conversation but the one other

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area I want to ask you both about we started to go down this path towards the

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beginning and I know we’ve got just a bit of time here before you all go on for your live streams I want to be on you I want to honor that maybe we’ll

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have you back for a fuller conversation about this but overcoming the fear of judgment as we confidently put ourselves

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out there so good oh my gosh so good oh my gosh I I want to hear your

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perspective on this because this is like I was talking to a a client yesterday a

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new member of our community and she’s a singer she’s a singer she’s a wonderful performer she’s in sales as well and we

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were just talking about she had been like putting herself out there last year on social and got some judgment and got

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some nastiness and I shared this with you all like last year like my heart got

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hurt and some scenarios that felt like judgment and felt like G like it just

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didn’t feel good how do but I also know there is something being cultivated in me within that so I think

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something it’s always working for us even when we have those moments of judgment or feeling like people are um

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looking at us a certain way how do you all approach that how do we maintain that confidence as we’re putting

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ourselves out there if we’re bumping up against any sort of fear of judgment or maybe you have been judged in the past

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and you feel nervous to put yourself out there oh this is so good and I would

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even say inevitable we are Al the the beautiful thing about

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human beings is that we’re all different and the challenging thing about human beings is we’re all

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different and so that means my opinion is not going to match your opinion and what you do and the way that I think

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that you do it might go against my morals or ethics and that doesn’t I

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think I I really want to like provide a solution in the mind around this but the

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the truth is that it is not easy and um it’s just something that gets you

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become more okay with the more you experience it so don’t avoid it but also

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don’t go out there and like be an i a-hole and like try to get people to hate you yeah be if you’re being

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authentic truly authentic there’s going to be somebody that does not agree that

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doesn’t like it or is just angry and wants to say something to somebody that makes them feel better um now I do

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believe that there is feedback that can be very constructive I think it just depends on

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who it’s coming from yeah where is the criticism or judgment as we feel it

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coming from because if it’s from somebody I love and I trust and I admire

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and we’ve known each other for a long time and they say hey I think like this felt a little bit out of line

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I will actually take that and I’ll think okay let let me evaluate and reflect on

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on that maybe maybe there was a better way that I could have done this or maybe it was the wrong timing for this it

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wasn’t necessarily the wrong thing it was just bad timing yeah and so I think

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that it’s good to look at that but then also to say I heard somebody say I think it was Alex horos who was like if if I

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wouldn’t if you wouldn’t be invited to speak at my funeral I’m not I don’t care about what you have to say to say and I

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was like that’s I mean that’s very powerful in in essence like the same thing right right and with judgment too

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I think it’s good to be mindful of ourselves because usually other people are a mirror because what we are seeing

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in them is only part of them it’s not the it’s out of context just like

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somebody may take something that you do or say or whatever on social media out of context this happens to Super famous

24:29

people all the time this happens on the news all the time it’s so manipulated and they’ll take like one little piece

24:35

of what somebody said that is so out of context has nothing to do what the actual situation was about but will

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paint them in a really terrible light yeah so if somebody’s also judging you or criticizing you understand that

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you’re only seeing a fraction of them as well so it doesn’t help for the like to

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just have the same attitude and behavior towards them I I still get to learn how to be better at this yeah um and so it’s

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kind of like if what you’re seeing in them is something you’re familiar with because that’s the reason that that’s

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the piece of them that you’re seeing yeah and so then look back at you and

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say why is that what I’m pulling out of like recently this is vulnerable but we

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were very uh we went through a lot of challenging times at the end of last last year very challenging probably the

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most challenging experience that we’ve had and it was so challenging because it

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felt like my character is being

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misinterpreted and then shared in interpretation yeah and I

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can’t do I’m helpless yeah I can’t I’m not going to go to try to defend myself I know who I am I still slept at night

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every night yeah because I know who I am however it felt it feels like betrayal it feels like you

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know heartbreak whatever you want to call it so recently I noticed myself and

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I started reflecting on this I’ll let you talk in a second I started reflecting on this

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every time I got a message from somebody I hadn’t heard from for a while or every time I got there was an email I don’t

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know if you experienced this but it’s like it was so heavy at one point that it’s like I’m like trying to prep myself

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is it going to be something and I’m like where I need to let this go and expect

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for great things to be coming my way not complaints not um negativity not

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whatever else like yeah and so it’s like I for myself to have an expectation that

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this person really doesn’t mean to harm for these people they don’t mean to harm

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they just don’t know what they don’t know and I don’t know what know so we can leave it at that and I’ll continue

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to be authentic if you’re sleeping at night I’ll tell you you don’t have a problem you know you and and you’re

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confident in you yeah it’s where you’re like you think that they’re actually

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right where maybe you get to like dig into yourself a little

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bit wow oh my gosh I feel that so much everything yeah s i i want you to add in

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um and I’ll just the the piece about everyone being a mirror is so true so when we can have

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that higher level of Consciousness when we’re receiving judgment from someone else if it’s triggering us if it’s snaring us emotionally it’s like there’s

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something there um that we get to explore a little bit Ser what would you what would you add on to

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that th this is where discipline comes into play because reputation is what you

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and you said this the other day reputation is what people say about you character is what you build you are so so

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when I lean on my discipline every single day and even like you had a tough

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year last year we had a year last year and it feels like you’re going through all this noise or like Wilderness or

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whatever you want to call it the reason why Aon and I could sleep at night is because we knew deep down

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that we LED with Integrity now how other people choose to perceive us and and

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look at us because we are leading with integrity that’s their perception of

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life I cannot I cannot control how other people perceive me you know for me what

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I know is that I show up as my most confident self when I lead with

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Integrity with myself and with the higher power and when I do that and when I follow through with what I said I was

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going to do and where my intentions regardless of how uncomfortable they are

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are in alignment with the greater good and where it is that I want to go then ultimately that’s all that matters and I

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know that the rest will be taken care of could feel sucky in the moment but that’s why one of the things we say is

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that greatness was wasn’t meant to be [Laughter]

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convenient something that really gives me peace too is knowing like you know for

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whoever’s listening if you believe in God or you believe iner power I know

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it’s between me and God yeah and if I feel good about that what is anybody

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else’s opinion including my own you know wow there’s the thumb do you see it you got you’ve actually had

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two thumbs up you missed it the other way Zoom likes our conversation it’s G

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[Laughter] us for anyone listening uh we got the

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zoom thumbs up twice twice in this conversation so we trying to make it happen before the call didn’t happen

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boom just let it happen organically so yeah just remembering big picture big picture between you and God um man this

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is this is so good there’s like so many other caps I would love to take this

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conversation out I know we’re at time and I want to honor um but you you all have a live stream five days a week that

30:22

people can catch by the way so I’d love if you share that CU I know you’re about to go do that but maybe you can share um just how people can get involved in your

30:29

community share about your app I know you’ve got a quiz that people can take too if they really want to take this

30:34

conversation around discipline right and figure out where can I strengthen myself where can I grow my confidence you have

30:40

these five pillars that you teach that you address in the quiz so I’ll let you talk about it but please share how could

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someone connect further in get in your energy and become part of the community if they want to yeah thank you for the blessing of

30:53

inviting people into our world too yeah we have so the quiz that we have is something

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that I mean everything’s going to be on Ain and street.com depending on when you’re listening to this it might

31:05

already be up it might not but Ain and.com um there’s a quiz there and

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maybe it’s into show notes or maybe not I don’t know um but we do the first

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three weeks of the month we go live usually Monday through Friday unless we’re traveling or something like that

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um and it’s on our Facebook group uh we just live stream from our Facebook group which is Erin and Serit

31:33

and we talk about all different kind of things yeah like every normally normally

31:39

it’s with regards to like building a sustainable lifestyle and achieving high performance and then uh Thursdays are

31:47

normally guest interviews and then Fridays are fun fridays where we kind of like talk about what happened this week

31:53

and what what the heck we’re up to and just I call it what the Friday oh what the

31:59

it’s kind of better and so so this quiz it’s a you know how like have you

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ever felt I’m I’m speaking to you and the audience have you ever felt that you’re like man I know I could be more

32:14

discipline but what does that look like right it it’s like or I know I could be in better shape or have better

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energy or how but so the question is how do we make it tangible

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so our system works because we we give you a number one we we look at you as a

32:33

whole person it’s not just a diet it’s not just a workout we look at you as an entire like body mind and soul right so

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like the Five Pillars that we we teach and teach you how to apply are based on

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movement nutrition recovery mindset and mental toughness

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and it’s all backed up by discipline right so it’s like for anyone who’s thinking like like man I know I could be

32:58

more disciplined but what does that look like like imagine if you ever like took a quiz that could like literally give

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you a score this is your discipline score like tell you where you’re at that’s exactly what arise is all about

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like it it asks you behavioral questions and the intention of that is for you to learn about yourself okay like when it

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comes to my discipline where am I at to where I know I could be based on like high level standards with regards to

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nutrition where am I at based on where it is that I want to be and it’s principle based it is not you know like

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you gotta be keto or you gotta be vegan so it doesn’t matter what your preference is those are just mechanics

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it’s from a higher level standard like where are you at in terms of consistency

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so what we what’s the next step for you right the value of squiz which I believe

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is probably going to be in your show notes or something along these lines and thank you for providing that for

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audience is to give people a level of awareness because we cannot change what

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we’re not aware of right where am I at with regards to these pillars so that

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you know when you take the qu you’re like okay so my score for discipline is this out of this and then we give you

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action steps so that you’re able to continue to rise up and rise up and rise up amazing that’s so oh my gosh that’s

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so helpful after you after you see your results too it also gives you like what

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what can’t what are some things that I can do I can start doing right now for every pillar to prove from where I’m at

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right now so it’s tangible yes we love that we love tangible we love it’s it’s

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a solid system it’s tangible that’s amazing so yes thank you so so much so

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um for everyone listening that we’ll link the quiz and the show notes we’ll link Erin Street’s website everything you’re doing you’ve built a

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phenomenal community and I think again there’s such alignment between what like if you like what we talk about here on

34:56

the podcast then you absolutely want to connect with Aon and Serene and get in their energy

35:01

and they’re going to help you elevate on the side of Health Fitness Wellness mental resilience toughness like you all

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are just amazing so I know you’ve got to go do your live stream and go serve your community but thank you both so much for

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being here so much love to you both um and just so grateful for you so thank you I can’t wait for part two I know I

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know we I feel like we like opened up a lot of different conversations I want to come back and go deeper in so we’ll have you back again um but thank you so so

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much so much love to you both thank you right absolutely all right to you my listener oh my gosh please go connect

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with Ain and ser you are going to be so glad that you did so grateful as always to have you as a member of the She Sells

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community as a listener of She Sells radio and I will see you on the next episode bye for now