The Non-Negotiable You with Angie Wisdom

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Welcome to She Sells Radio I am personally very excited for today’s

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conversation because if you have followed me for any amount of time you know I love talking about Quantum leaps

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and any time in my sales in my life in my business when I have Quantum leaped

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and there have been many times when I’ve been stuck too so that’s definitely part of the story but anytime I’ve Quantum

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leaped it has not been from working harder it has not been from just out

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hustling in fact those were the activities and the ways of being where I stayed stuck um when I have truly

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Quantum leave it has been from going inside and learning how to rewire and

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shift the subconscious programming that was keeping me stuck at a certain level

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to start actually seeing and believing that what I wanted was possible and so

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what I really now teach and believe is that your results will never supersede your identity and so today we get to go

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in depth with an expert in reprogramming the subconscious mind and how you remove

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limiting beliefs that could have persisted for most of your life so my guest today is Joel Bine he’s the

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founder of human Liberation and he shares a revolutionary approach to removing negative beliefs from the

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subconscious mind which I’m very excited to hear about freeing people from their unwanted thoughts and emotions so Joel

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welcome so much to the podcast I am very excited to dive in with you today and I’m ready to take notes because I know

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that I’m going to learn so much too so thank you for being here my pleasure I’m excited to be here amazing so you know

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we get we get a lot of uh reach outs for the show and when I and and most of them

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I’m like nah you know it’s just it’s not a fit or we don’t have bandwidth when I saw what you were doing and more about

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your work I was like yes we need to have you on because this is the one thing that if people can learn how to do it

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will will transform not just their results but their I I want to hear your

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thoughts on this too but their peace and their happiness and their enjoyment of the process so um so I’m so excited to

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to hear more from you and I know that anyone who has something that they teach and their passionate about they usually

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have some sort of a backstory where they had to learn it for themselves or they had to overcome challenges in order to

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um in order to create this methodology so would you share just a little bit more about your personal growth story

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and what even LED you down this path of wanting to learn how to overcome limiting beliefs and then teaching so

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many other people how to do so yeah absolutely I mean it’s funny my

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personal development story started early I think age 1819 I just found myself

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starting to gravitate towards podcasts about parenting philosophy and

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psychology and thinking about how it is how is it that children are raised in

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this culture right and thinking about how how can we create a healthy world

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for adults by focusing on the fundamentals the fundamentals are how children are raised

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right we we build these habits that that start in childhood I’ve always been interested in fundamentals I’m a I’m a

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classically trained musician very passionate about that as well and so you need to know your your scales you need

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to know your fundamentals you need to know the basics so I’m I’ve always been interested in in the fundamentals and

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getting to the root of things to actually solve the problem and actually build healthy habits and healthy ways of

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being so that’s one place that really started for me you know coming and coming out of a you know less than ideal

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childhood for sure and having you know some chaos and dysfunction and just not

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really being my authentic self not really being nurtured you know of course because of my parents own limitations

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and their own beliefs and their own unprocessed childhoods and so I started gravitating getting towards that that

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deep stuff from a young age and then doing a lot of different personal development throughout my 20s and and

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getting to know who I actually am and then in my 30s really beginning to apply

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that knowledge and and and sharing that authentic self with the world and that’s really when I came across in my early

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30s the this method that I’m now sharing with the world which has been the most powerful tool I’ve come across to

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actually to actually let go at the root of these these conditioned beliefs that

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we’re you know as kids were trying to navigate our environments we’re trying to get connection and love and safety

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and so forth and so we create stories to to make sense of things and and get those needs met but then they become

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baggage um they become they get in the way they become clutter as we as we move

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into adulthood so it’s it’s actually getting to that route and and and then

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you can free yourself fully so that’s that’s kind of the high level uh backstory wow yeah well there’s there’s

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a lot of places we could go with that and um something that we’ll talk today a fair amount about money uh if you’re

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game for it our listeners are here and they’re you know they’re either in sales or they’re entrepreneurs so they they

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want to learn how to grow their money and um well you know we’ll talk money blocks too but one of the things that

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really transformed my life was when I I understood that the reason why I was

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wanting more money wasn’t so much to have this like stack of paper sitting

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there because money on its own without any sort of emotional impact doesn’t really do anything for us it was it was

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the freedom that I thought it would create and it and to me surface level it’s like well yes it creates time and

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money freedom and that’s powerful but at a deeper level what I’ve really come to understand and I’d love to hear your

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your perspective on this we’ll go more into your story and your methodology too but the deepest Freedom that I I

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personally feel like we’re seeking is is the freedom to be fully ourselves like when we’re there when we feel that that

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to me is when everything unlocks so you spoke about being your authentic self

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and I think that that phrase I know for many years I would hear it thr I was like you know it’s it’s sounded like a

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t-shirt something nice to say but I didn’t really think it had a lot of value I was like how’s that going to make me help more help me make more

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money I don’t really see a lot of value in it and being someone who’s who’s been

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on this path and continues to be on this path there’s amazing things that unlock when

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we actually tap back into like who were we in childhood and and um who is our

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authentic self versus the the false self right and and start to close that Gap so

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um share a little bit more about this concept of the authentic self and if someone’s listening how do they know if

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they are showing up as their authentic self or if they’re not and and what why

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do we want to why do we care right for someone who’s listening they’re like I care about the bottom line they’re at least 5 10 years ago how do they why do

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why do they care to start really showing up as their authentic self and what would change or transform in their

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business and their sales I hope that question makes sense it’s a lot of questions yeah well I like that you said

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what’s the purpose of money basically it’s the endgame I mean it’s not money for money’s sake it’s to create a

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flourishing life it’s to create freedom is to have certain needs met so that you can be happy like what’s life for it’s

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to be happy right and I see happiness as how many of our needs can we get met at the highest level right so we have a

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need for security and freedom and we also have needs for for connection and

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we have a need to be seen right so it’s funny I I was listening to this podcast

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and there’s this this guy who works with he’s worked with billionaires throughout

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his career and he was giving this he was relaying the fact that there are many

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many billionaires people who have1 billion dollar who wish they had two billion do and the reason that that is

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is because they have inner inner things that they haven’t solved right it’s the

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inner game and at the end of the day you could have all the money in the world but what’s what’s the point of

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life right so if you’re if you’re lonely if you’re not being seen for who you are if you’re not expressing who you are

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then you’re not going to be flourishing right so if you zoom out and say how do I create a true you know Michael

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ellsburg and Brian Franklin their book The Last safe investment they talk about true wealth true wealth it’s not just

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Financial wealth it’s all the wealth it’s social wealth it’s it’s feeling like you can express yourself it’s

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having experiences that are meaningful all these things that that create a flourishing Abundant Life so yeah I mean

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authentic self I think if you tune in in terms of how to know if you’re being your

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false self or a true self one thing that comes to mind is just when you’re in

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you’re having you know conversations with a a close friend or a romantic

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partner like do you notice anything in your body that’s feeling guarded right you want to

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maybe this part you want to express yourself you want to say what you actually think but then

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you back yeah right because there could be some you sit on your needs you sit on

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your needs for self-expression and self assertiveness right and you you hide and

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this is I I know this very well because much of my life I’ve done this but uh

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you hide that actual self- assertiveness so that you can at least

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ostensibly create that illusion of I’m going to I’m going to stay safe and connected if I don’t actually disagree

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here or I don’t actually show up as my full self right so that’s kind of the

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one way to think about it so you said you sit on your needs right did I hear that correctly yeah that speak more I

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think this is so powerful and so important there’s there’s some follow-up questions I want to ask but I know I’ve

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had that experience many times and like I like I’ve I’ve made a I’ve grown a lot in this area and I’m still like every

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day I’m noticing ways in which I’m like oh I held back there and I wanted to say something or so I I don’t know that this

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work ever ends um but that sitting on your needs really spoke to me the way

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that you put it because that feels very clear so what does someone if they notice they’re doing

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this what do we start to do I know you’ve got a methodology and so I don’t like obviously people would want to hire

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you to go deeper in this if they want to have the full experience but can you speak a little bit to how do we start to

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unravel that way of being and and what is the the way that you approach this with clients when when they’ve maybe had

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this pattern for most of their life how do we start to feel safe to actually show up and be visible and be seen as

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our most authentic selves yeah the the discovery process of

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figuring out what beliefs the subconscious mind has is the most

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important part because I can connect with someone and we can clear any belief

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for them very rapidly the question is what’s the belief that’s causing you the

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most issues in your life in your patterns so if that’s a fear of let’s just take that same example of of

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self-expression fear fear of self assertiveness again I start with the body like okay we we have this pattern

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when you’re talk let’s just say you’re talking to your husband and you notice that you feel guarded in that moment

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okay let’s start with that now let’s connect to the body the body is feeling this guardedness

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this fear okay often I’ll ask clients if that fear or guardedness could speak

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what would it say and that gives us the chance to see this fear this feeling as a separate

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part of you so understanding that the the psyche

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is sort of a family of parts of ourselves part of me thinks this part of me feels

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this and seeing okay it’s not that I’m fearful it’s there’s this part of me

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that’s fearful and so then we can kind of have that

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perspective oh this is this part oh and that part is coming from my past

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experience right so then we begin to dialogue with the part to to understand

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what the actual beliefs are the actual root Concepts that are filtering reality so

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there could be a belief that I’m not assertive or it’s not safe

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to express myself or I’m not good enough I’m not good enough in my experience

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working with with dozens and dozens of people is the most common belief I think

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people have in the in the world so if we can actually identify the

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conceptual you know the the language that that spotlights the actual Concepts the part of you is believing then we can

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then we can work this process and and clear the belief out um but it’s it’s really starting with the body often

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times and starting what is the pattern I have now connect to that part of you and figure out what that part of you is

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believing that makes a ton of sense once you so once we connect to that part of

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us and we’re like okay I’ve got some clarity on what that part of me is believing how do we start to shift it

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because I think you speak to and I know a lot of people will teach affirmations

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visualization and um and I have a an approach that I use in my own life but I’m curious to hear from you like is

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that is that how you shift it with your clients or have you found something that’s a more powerful approach because

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there’s a lot of people listening who probably say oh I tried affirmations and it didn’t work for me I tried a vision

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board I tried manifesting and it didn’t work so what’s the what’s the Gap and is there a different or better way to clear

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those beliefs and then create because we’ve got to replace it with a different belief right so what does that look like for you when you’re working with

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clients yeah I love I love this topic uh affirmations I believe are very valuable

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but it is the case that many people struggle to gain value from them and it’s because the subconscious part is

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believing the opposite perhaps so I mean I did affirmations for years like I’m

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enough I’m enough I’m enough and I I remember doing that and it would give me this shortterm value but then I also

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remember thinking deep down that it was it was nonsense it was BS what I was

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saying because deep down I believed I’m not enough so it’s like trying to spray the

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dog dooo on the carpet with air freshener it’s like we need to actually clear out the problem and then if you

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want to add air freshener to enhance things if you want to add the affirmation to enhance things

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I think that’s great but but what I do is is is really just about the

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unlearning process it’s deprogramming it’s not focused at all on

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learning new things on New on new affirmations on reprogramming on shifting this and changing and adding

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it’s subtracting it’s unlearning it’s pulling out the weeds it’s pulling out the weeds of the

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mental Garden you pull out the weeds and then if you want to plant some new seeds that are wonderful affirmations for man

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man estation all the good things like well now we’ve cleared all this stuff that’s getting in the way so this is why

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people have the uh you know there’s like this caricature of affirmations and like

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people are turned off sometimes by affirmations and visualization because it doesn’t work

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for a lot of people because we have all these beliefs from parts of us that that are holding on and until we actually

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dialogue with the part of us that believes I’m not good enough or I’m not enough or money is evil whatever it is

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then we’re just going to keep having this oppositional energy to the

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affirmation that’s something I’ve been really thinking about in my own life lately too and and for my clients too

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it’s just this experience of like split energy which I think so many people listening if if you’re conscious and if

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you’re paying attention you may notice in your life where it’s like I want this thing and I feel this pulled towards

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this thing and I feel bad for wanting it I tell I make myself wrong I feel like I

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always have to work so hard to get there um you know I beat myself up Etc so I I

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this is not an at leas original I don’t know who said this originally but I think this is where people get it messed

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up with Law of Attraction manifestation is they think well you just sit there and you look at the vision board all day

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or you affirm all day and and it happens and and no because in life we don’t get what we want we get what we are right so

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to your point of you got to clear out the weeds first before you can plant the

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new seeds if there’s a if there’s a weed in there like you’re going to attract based on that belief based on that

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negative belief even if it’s not what you want so I I think it’s a I love the

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approach let’s talk specifically to money and money blocks um so I don’t

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know if you see this with your clients a lot of the work I do with mine and what we see with a lot of the members of the

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community is around worthiness so you know we’ve got we got all genders in the community

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obviously more women the men here but um but what’s you

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know I see this so commonly with the women who come into our group programs where they they want another level of

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success they want another level of abundance and yet they either they don’t

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feel worthy of it they feel bad for wanting it there can be old religious wounding about you’re going to be

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punished if you go for what you H or you should feel shameful for more how do we can you speak to those a little bit like

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how do you approach those with clients how do we start to break those I know it’s probably the same process but let’s let’s make it specific to money right

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now because I know this is a hot button for the community absolutely I mean money I love

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talking about this partially because it’s the most taboo Topic in the culture

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I think yeah and so getting curious about that taboo to start with can be an

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entry point into our money beliefs again all a subconscious mind you might know that you’re worthy of success and

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abundance and prosperity and being rich and you want those things and that’s so

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amazing and then these deep childhood parts are are attached I mean I mean for

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me I I grew up in a family where there was no exposure to business there was I

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didn’t even know anything about entrepreneurship business until my like early 20s there was no exposure to that

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it was a world of my parents were both in the public sector and even

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implicitly I learned that you know making money is is greedy or rich people are selfish or money is evil even uh and

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also we just didn’t have that much money and there was that atmosphere in the home and so beginning to reflect on the

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atmosphere you had in your home growing up is is a great entry point but yeah I

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mean I I work with many many of my my clients we we’ll work on usually three to five patterns over the course of our

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sessions together but oftentimes one of those patterns is money blocks um

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there’s many people I’ve worked with that they’re making tons of money even but they still have insecurities about money they still have fear about the

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future so yeah getting conscious and just inviting awareness to beliefs like

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I don’t have enough money like I’ll invite people to listening right now just if you just sit on that belief does it

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resonate in your body I don’t have enough money if it feels if there’s a weight

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there that means the part of you has a belief that’s filtering your reality um

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if it sounds empty it sounds ridiculous like 2 plus 2 equals 5 that means the belief’s not there but that’s kind of

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the sense test I’ll help people recognize is let’s just say this belief what’s Your Gut check about it another

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common one is making money as hard you know when you actually think

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about it and this is this is the dialogue I’ll have sometime with people in their parts their parts of their subconscious

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mind it’s like making money is hard is there any actual proof of that in terms

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of our sense data excuse me so yeah I

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mean and I break this down more in in in the guide that I have um it’s actually

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atth human liberation. I created this guide that that talks more about the specifics

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about this uh people want to kind of get really into it but basically

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it’s recognizing that in these events growing up you you you saw your parents struggling with with the bills well it’s

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recognizing that you didn’t actually see the belief I don’t have enough money you just

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saw things objects people you saw things with your eyes you saw your your mom or

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dad having a certain facial expression you saw this bill and then maybe you felt feelings in your body you felt this

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tension or this insecurity okay you had sense data coming in you’re experiencing

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but the actual story I don’t have enough money is not one of the pieces of sense

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data we just create meaning that’s what we do and it’s totally understandable as a kid

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especially we are trying to understand our environments we’re trying to stay

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safe we’re trying to stay connected we’re trying to fit in we’re trying to maintain attachment to our parents all

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the different like reasons that are so we make meaning we’re meaning making machines as

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humans so the the thing is we we are unconsciously making meaning when we’re

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having some of these challenges ing events growing up and so when you actually recognize

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that the the stories aren’t in objective reality it’s something you created in

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your mind and we can be free of it forever yeah and the clients I’ve worked with is just like enormous shift

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over like not even usually I work with people for 12 weeks um sometimes I’ll work with people

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I had a client who his money blocks were he he rated as a 10 10 out of 10 on week

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one and by week eight he was Zero he was like yeah I’m good like I I still blows

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my mind even sharing that like I know it might sound like I’m trying to Hype it up or something but I’m just sharing the

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real like we just keep shaving down beliefs and then is totally different

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totally different yeah oh my gosh that’s so good and and I love everything you’re saying because it it’s very aligned with

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the teaching that has changed my life and the work I do now my own life and with with clients too and I want to just

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come back to something and make sure that I’m hearing this the way that you’re you’re meaning it too so for

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everyone listening the way what I’m hearing you say is how do we know if we

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have a limiting belief how do we know if we have a subconscious pattern that’s holding us back right we we check in with our body and if it feels you use

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the word I think heavy like it’s weighing you down that’s an instant awareness that this is I’m thinking this

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is the way I think like I’m thinking something that’s not actually true for me in this moment or that doesn’t have

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to be my highest and best truth it’s it’s in conflict with what I think like my best or highest self knows and think

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so that’s the trigger is that feeling state in the body is that and you’re giving different language to it which I

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appreciate so is that am I hearing that right is there anything you would add on to that from what I said yeah I love

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integrating the the body and the mind it’s like let’s just start with the present moment what is the experience you’re having now that that feeling in

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the body that guarden this that you know maybe you’re for me I had fear about

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sales specifically and being on a sales call and and being

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in that moment where you’re making the pitch you’re saying okay would you like to become my client would you like to do this partnership

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whatever and feeling that like little twinge of anxiety right and then that’s

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the clue that’s the clue okay what do I have to believe in order for this anxiety to be occurring what is intern

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the actual cause because the the the the experience the the sales call is just

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the it’s just the external circumstance it’s not the cause the cause of your

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anxiety is from is from deeper is from your past yeah so I had a belief again I

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that I just have sort of absorbed through osmosis in this culture and in my family as well that sales is

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dishonest this is a big one I think because we don’t hear about sales in

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school it’s just that imply that sales is sleazy or whatever it is could be

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sales is sleazy sales is manipulative sales is dishonest sales is

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greedy so there’s a lot of that there’s a lot of that in our culture and so again we might consciously know people

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listening you’re experienced in in entrepreneurship or sales and you you know sales is about being authentic and

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being honest and if you actually want to have results you need to build that but the question is is there any part of you

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that’s holding on to something from the past because you absorbed it yeah through the culture so that was a big

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one for me the sales is dishonest that’s huge that’s I would

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imagine everyone listening has heard that I mean what’s the most common analogy I use car sales but like no

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disrespect to anyone who’s listening who sells cars right but that’s it’s just that conditioning and then um I I know

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so many of our listeners can relate and you go into we got a lot of listeners who are entrepreneurs or sales professionals you go into it because any

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number of reasons you you usually you want to help people you like what you’re selling and you like the idea of the

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abundance right and the opportunity for freedom and and all of that and and so it’s a beautiful way to live and yet if

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we’re held down by that belief or that you you talked about perception right it’s like this Veil that’s kind of

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clouding our perception when we’re on the sales calls it’s it’s kind of like you’re you’ve got this ankle we you’re

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just like dragging along right and you’re always moving slower than you could that’s that’s how I um that’s

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sometimes how I think about it speak a little bit more Joel like I’d love to go a little bit deeper into the the hustle

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culture and the conditioning that to be successful we need to be working

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247 um and this is I I man I remember when I was coming up in sales I I

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followed a sales leader who talked about like if you have any white space on your calendar it’s the devil and and so I got

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into this cycle where I would get up at 2:00 in the morning I’d go to bed at like 11 I was burning the candle at both

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ends I was working all the time and that was actually the season of my life where no matter what I did I couldn’t break

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past the low six figure Mark so I was working so hard all the time feeling

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like it was just like moving through quicksand but there was this like this weight and this this should of you

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should be working or else you’re not being productive you’re going to fall behind there’s the competition is going

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to get your de and this is this is pervasive in the business culture so you spoke a little bit to this before but

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I’d love to just go deeper into this if someone is realizing that yeah I’ve got this condition like I feel like I need

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to be working all the time and I feel guilty if I take a break or I like feel guilty if I go outside and feel the sun

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on my face during the day or we’ve got moms and and dad’s listening if I stop and play with my babies how do we start

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to dismantle this and and get passes and what’s what’s your take on this approach to work yeah this is one of my favorite

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topics uh because I’m a big fan of what I call high performance

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loafing uh there’s a great performance loafing yeah okay there there’s an

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author named Daniel coil who wrote the book The Talent Code and he he talks about how skill is

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grown and he went around the world studying High performers such as Elite tennis players

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and soccer players and musicians and he was trying to figure out how to these places build Talent anyway he had a blog

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post some 10 years ago talking about the importance of rest in all his research um the the the top

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performers in any area of life actually work very

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focused for a finite number of of hours and then they’re resting and they’re getting tons of downtime I mean

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historically someone like Charles Darwin was like working I don’t know he would work 9 to 12 in the morning and then he

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was he was playing back gamon with his family he was taking long walks he’s taking a naps like in this restoration

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time is essential for having for your brain to be let’s take sleep and napping

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this is a huge opportunity for your brain to process information and to have insights and have to be refreshed and to

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be restoring and taking long walks with no technology having you know great

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ideas and from these long walks and and refreshing your mind and getting the endorphins and and we know these things

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like people listening to podcasts like we’re hearing about the self-help and make sure you take time for yourself and self-care and all that stuff but then we

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have these subconscious beliefs because we’ve been conditioned we’re just a product of our conditioning and like

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I’ll just zoom out for a second like I just want to invite compassion right now for everybody like we’re growing up in this

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when it comes to work specifically this work hard for this for the sake of working hard this like puritanical like

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it’s baked into us and like just just forgive yourself first at a metal level

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for this this wheel that you’re on because it’s very hard I’ve done a lot of belief work on myself

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with this and there’s still beliefs that I haven’t found yet I think because there’s so many different ways that we

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we are so many different spellings if you will different beliefs about work ethic um that we want to uncover but

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like what makes me Worthy is working hard the way to be successful is to work

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hard um making money is hard I’m not doing enough I should be doing

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more this stuff we it gets instilled in installed into us through through this

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culture and so that first step is to just invite some self-acceptance I think

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for that wheel that this sort of cycle that we inherited from our parents they inherited from their parents and like

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but we we actually know that what matters for creating value and creating results is just that creating value and

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creating results it’s not about how much your body is straining itself like is there isn’t there a distinction between

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doing valuable work being productive and straining your body like

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is it really necessary to have this physiological experience of

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distress in order to create value in the

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marketplace that’s sort of like a high level rhetorical question for people and

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then when we actually investigate you know at this level of spef specificity

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we again we connected these subconscious parts and see what beliefs they have but yeah I’m I’m I’m pretty passionate about

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this one because I want people to enjoy life and have that time that

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downtime and and take care of ourselves but I also don’t want to people often will try to swing the

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pendulum the other way and and focus on self-care and then not do the the the hard work hard

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work meaning like concrete work tangible um results producing work um

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which is also a form of self-care like doing the thing that you want to do that’s going to move your

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business forward the most and create the flourishing life you want is a form of

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self-care so yeah I could Riff on that for a long time but oh my gosh yeah man

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it’s funny it’s like even as you talk I had a visceral physical reaction and likeing up in my eyes because I know

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this conditioning is yeah so deep right it’s so deep and I I see this even with

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we’ve got a three and a halfy old and even over the past couple of weeks he

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started to bring home art from school and say look I worked so hard on

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this do he’ll he’ll um be playing with a toy and he’s like he made me a necklace

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the other day was so sweet and he’s like look Mommy I worked so hard on this and it’s been interesting

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yeah I feel like emotionally even talking about it because I I I don’t think we we’re pretty conscious in our

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household about our we’re very conscious and our household about our language I don’t think we’re really talking a lot about working hard necessarily in the

34:41

old way because that’s it’s just something that both my my partner and I are conscious to now um in our lives but

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you know maybe he heard it from us if we like said something off-handed or maybe he heard it from school but uh and to

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your point there’s nothing wrong with with working hard when it’s in the energy of to me creation like what am I

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creating I want to bring forth and that’s but I don’t know to me it doesn’t feel like hard work it feels like Joy it

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feels like fun it feels exciting um but just to see him start to say that like man this is interesting

35:13

how early this shows up and all of us had it so yeah it’s it’s it’s wild and

35:20

it’s it’s a game Cher let me let me ask you this Joel and I know you put together um you put

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together a great guide for our listeners which I appreciate so we’ll we’ll have you share that again at the end but is

35:31

there anything that I haven’t asked you that I love this topic is there anything I haven’t asked you that you think is

35:37

important for our listeners to know or is is part of um your approach to

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freedom and I love I I love what you do here I love the focus so is there anything that they should know or that I haven’t asked you that you want me to

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ask you what comes to mind is just

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emphasizing that this approach that I that I guide people

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with it actually permanently eliminates the subconscious

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limiting belief in 99% of the time

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plus it takes about 20 minutes sometimes it takes shorter and when we actually have this

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dialogue with the part of you that believes the thing then the belief’s just gone like

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Santa Claus isn’t real anymore and you might have meta beliefs like

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hearing that that that’s not possible and I invite awareness about

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any beliefs about change that change can’t be fast change has to be hard I usually start with clients the first

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session we we start with change blocks if there’s any blocks that nothing I do

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Works uh it’s not going to work or I can’t change then we Free People of that and

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then there’s all this excitement oh I see that those beliefs just evaporated now what now what else can I

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let go of so and again just Tak the Santa Claus

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example uh almost everybody growing up we just have the story going the Santa

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Claus is real and it’s like a whole thing it’s a big deal and we believe it

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and then when we actually realize it’s not true true it evaporates it’s not like a year later the next Christmas

37:31

time you’re re-evaluating your stance on stup it’s just gone forever so yeah I just want to emphasize

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that it’s that it’s not what I’m doing is it’s just guiding people to to

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unlearn to eliminate to let go to declutter whatever word you want to use

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and it’s pretty simple we don’t need to we don’t need to like have these okay now I’m going to have this whole

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plan for what I’m going to do um to change my life and muscle through this

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comfort zone issue and make these changes in my life and here’s my new routines that I’m going to set up in

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order to transform and here I just work with people we just people just show up

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for an hour and we clear several beliefs each session and their whole life’s

38:21

different and then they come back the next week and it’s just everything gets better automatically

38:27

because the beliefs are gone so again I I mean I’m trying to come across as

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genuine as possible with this because I know I understand that there could be skepticism about that and I was

38:40

skeptical the first time and like by all means like I’m a huge proponent of critical thinking and think for

38:47

yourself um but like it’s just my experience like it my whole life’s changed the past three years since

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learning this and it’s like my like my deeper purpose is to share this with as

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many people on the planet as possible and like de like help people decondition

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um this is this is about this is about more than business for me this is like how do we how do we really really heal

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the planet type stuff so yeah I’m with you no I’m so with you I

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the thing I I say about our brand and our podcast even is like sales as the Trojan Horse because I think that what

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what happens when you learn these Concepts and go deeper is like your whole life transforms and opens up and I

39:31

I I believe you about it can happen quickly because that’s the power of emotional impact it can happen just like

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that if we’re open so um and I’ve had that experience myself this is this is

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amazing thank you so much I know our listeners my listeners love this type of

39:48

conversation and I think you’ve added a new and a fresh perspective that we’ve never talked about before on the show

39:55

when it comes to this so so thank you so much um share a little bit more I know you put together a great guide which I

40:01

so appreciate um for our listeners so you want to share a little bit more about that and how people can connect

40:06

with you yeah absolutely this has been an energizing conversation and I just really appreciate what you’re doing

40:13

and the the guide is at thehuman liberation. El and the guide is called

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get to the root the keys to permanently end negative selft talk

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and yeah that guide is it expounds upon what I’ve said today in terms of

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understanding how our subconscious stories play out in our adult lives and

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and recognizing that we made meaning in childhood events and so one of the one of the cool things about the guide is I

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I tuck in these little vignettes about my own childhood and I share specific

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scenes specific memories that are attached to specific limiting beliefs that I used to

40:57

have and hopefully that can be you know um instructive or valuable for

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people to just see that I you know I’ve gone through this and and I’ve had I’ve had uh less than

41:13

ideal childhood and and things like that and so much has changed for me so yeah

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you can download that guide and then also like once you download the guide uh you’ll also have the chance to to book a

41:25

session with me and I’m I’m just being as abundant as possible as I build this business and the way I’m doing it at

41:32

least for now is that I’m just giving people a gift session where I’m

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gonna I I’ll give you we’ll kind of do an inventory of what beliefs are causing

41:43

patterns in your life and then we’ll actually do this process we I’ll clear one belief for you so that’s totally a gift for you um so you so once you go to

41:50

the that URL you’ll and you get you um get the Guide then you’ll have the chance to book a call with me as well if

41:56

you want to just try this out that’s awesome that’s awesome I think you’ll get many calls booked um that’s that’s

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amazing thank you thank you so much for that thank you for this conversation and um I’m really really glad we’re

42:09

connected and I’m excited about the work that you’re doing and um and what you brought today so thank you my pleasure

42:16

and thank you I I love your I love your Vibe and I love the the abundance that you are inviting into the world and so I

42:23

think like yeah this sort of combination of all this healthy manifestation

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visualization affirmation conscious abundance creating Law of Attraction type stuff combined with letting go of

42:37

the negative stuff is just an absolute superpower like I love I love doing the the visualization I’m like I’m I’m I’m

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I’ve read several of these live attraction books and like I love teaming that up with with the belief work and so

42:51

yeah really excited for what’s possible for for people as as they as they learn about these ideas yeah it’s so powerful

42:58

oh my gosh thank you my friend and uh to you my listener go connect with Joel get

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his guide we’ll link it in the show notes and I’m confident that you have I

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think new found I know I certainly have a newfound level of openness for what’s

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possible and what can open up in life as we get clear and free from these old

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restrictions and limitations that have been ruling the show for many of us for for most of our live so uh so this

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is such a great conversation as always thank you so much for being a listener of She Sells Radio and I’ll see you on

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our next episode bye for now.

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Welcome to She Sells Radio I am so excited about this conversation especially as we

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record and release this it’s the new year and it’s one of those times when we

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really start to at least if you’re like me re-examine ourselves reexamine our values set goals for the new year and

0:21

look at what do I want to create and also who do I want to be in this upcoming year too and so I I think I’m

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probably not alone in saying this I spent a good chunk of my life especially my teens and 20s really looking

0:36

externally for validation for feedback of what success looks like who I should

0:42

be um how I should show up and it wasn’t until I turned 35 and made a decision

0:50

that I wanted to start experiencing the fullness of who I was that life started to really unfold in a big way and get

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really exciting and so our guest today is an absolute expert in helping you

1:03

connect with that truth of who you are and then using that to help you build a

1:08

life and a business that you absolutely love that you feel at home in and that achieves all of your goals so I am gonna

1:16

have an amazing conversation today with Angie wisdom I’m going to read you just a little bit of her bio she’s got an

1:21

amazing background um and we’ll direct you to all of her information here in the show Notes too but Angie wisdom is a

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Master Certified coach with the IC F she has 25 plus years of business experience

1:34

and she helps burned out business owners stop running in plays and start elevating their companies by putting

1:40

themselves first and carving out the time to master their own leadership skills she’s the professional coach

1:46

behind the scenes for many of the most successful people you know and is a mentor and a confidant that navigates

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for clients from that place of searching for success to achieving more than they ever thought possible which I want to

1:58

come back to because I love that I’ve been reading her Incredible Book the non-negotiable you she’s got a

2:04

beautiful Journal start with you the morning mindset journal and I was

2:09

honored to come on her show a little while back and we were talking and I was like oh my gosh this woman is like

2:15

speaking my language and incredible and I’m grateful personally just to have time to go deeper with you and also to

2:21

bring you to my audience because you do bring such a breadth of of wisdom to

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your to everyone who follows you so thank you Angie for being here I’m super excited for the conversation well thanks for having me

2:33

Elyse and all those kind words I feel the same way about being here you know when we had our conversation when you

2:39

were on my show I I didn’t want it to stop we just had such a great time and and shared so many the same philosophies

2:46

I’m so excited to dig in a little bit deeper today with you absolutely well I think so I’d love to do just a little

2:52

bit of backstory and then I want to get into some of your Core Concepts that you teach because they’re so powerful but

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let’s start with your background was Finance right am I correct there financial services so what did that

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transition look like for you that’s a very analytical datadriven hard numbers

3:12

world and now you’re helping people really um Elevate all different areas of

3:18

their life including their finances but how did how did that transition happen to move you into the coaching and the

3:23

thought leadership work that you do today yeah you know it’s interesting if I even back up before then it’s like I

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got into the financial space and I was in banking and then went into um advising investment advising and I went

3:36

in that direction because I didn’t grow up with anything like that so to me it was like if I want to be successful if I

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want to have a life that I didn’t have as a child and I want to have money and Independence and all this stuff like

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that’s where my brain went to like I needed to be in something like that and so I went in that direction and I was

3:55

great at it and I loved it but I found out that really my my passion lied within these relationships and building

4:03

business instead of really just you know the nineo five aspect of being that

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financial adviser and investing people’s money I I guess it would say I was misled right I didn’t what I thought to

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be true about making money and having the life that you wanted wasn’t what I first thought it was so when I dug in

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and did some of that personal work on myself I was like oh gosh now I have totally different gifts I have a totally

4:27

different passion and I’ve got to start exploring that so that’s what really made me taking that turn from the

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financial industry into coaching wow isn’t that so interesting too and I think so many listeners can relate to

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that like you went into Finance because you it like you thought that was the path right to be suful and I know so

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often I think anyone who kind of wakes up in this lifetime has that moment where you look at your life that you’ve

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built and I certainly had this experience I know a lot of people listening can relate where you look around and you’re like I thought thought

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this was going to be what made me happy I thought this was going to be success and I’ve checked the boxes and yet I

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feel right I don’t feel the way I thought I would feel so I want to ask about this concept that you teach of

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choosing your seed so you know today it is it is so easy to run on autopilot

5:21

right and just constantly be kind of in reaction mode or maybe some we’ve built that life that we thought would make us

5:28

happy and successful and then we find that we’re not there you talk about this concept of choosing your seat and how it

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transforms that Paradigm and puts you back in control of your life so what

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does it mean to choose your seat tell us a little bit more about that and what that looks like it’s really about

5:46

recognizing what you actually want in your life it is so easy to fall into

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this habit of okay well I’m in the job that I’m in I’m in the relationship that I’m in my life is going the way that it

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is and and it’s fine you know what you mean I need to be grateful and you just keep moving along and you know rinse

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repeat every single day that’s the majority of you know people fall into that the majority of people and it’s

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really if you take a step back and you start going well what do I really want my day to look like what do I want my

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life to look like what would I change people usually have a lot of feedback on

6:24

that and there’s this gap of like well if you want to be your own person and

6:30

not be you know an employee and you want to have your own business what’s stopping you from doing it if you want

6:36

to have this different relationship if you want to have this healthy lifestyle whatever it is that you want there’s a

6:43

path for it but it’s it becomes your seat right and that seat is what you always have to move towards and in order

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to do that you’re going to have to stop choosing things that keep you in the same seat that you’re in and it’s it’s

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really about every single choice and step that you take is moving in the

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direction of this new seat that you envision for your life your relationships your business everything

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that has you know is the desire for you yeah speak a little bit more to that um

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and you you T I’ve heard you talk about this too removing the things that are not going to get you to your seat so

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would that look like so maybe an example of like someone who’s in uh maybe like a

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a solopreneur right and they’re running a smaller company and they’re like they see that vision for something bigger

7:35

they want to expand they want to build a team but there’s there’s fear there’s doubts there’s limiting beliefs there’s the how

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what would it look like for someone there to start removing the things that aren’t going to get them into their seat

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and and consciously start taking that daily action towards it yeah as an example you know we can take say one

7:55

business owner one of my clients and when he came to me he was roughly a $3 to5 million company you know varying

8:03

from year to year and had about 10 people working with him and he was stuck

8:08

and when you look at okay well what is kind of keeping you stuck where you are

8:13

and we start to outline okay well I’ve got my hand in every aspect of the business you know I’m way overwhelmed I

8:21

don’t have any personal time um my people come to me for everything I am

8:27

the answerman you know I don’t have any people who are really doing the leadership aspect of it so you start to

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put all these things down on paper that’s keeping you in this exact same seat and then when we go okay well what

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do you really want your business to look like and he’s like well I want to have a 20 $25 million thriving company where I

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have leaders in every department and they know how to run things and I am not even involved in it except when we have

8:51

a high level meeting and I am over here just doing this relationship connecting so if that’s what you want what are we

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going to have to to change in order for you to do that and so then all of a sudden we remove this we’re like okay

9:04

well we’ve got to get your people trained up in leadership we need to make sure you have the right people on staff

9:10

to execute what you need we need to take you out of this and Empower your people

9:15

so all of a sudden it becomes this process of just understanding what you’ve got to stop doing and what you

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start doing and slowly but surely you’re really moving into that seat yeah I love

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that you know when we spoke on on your show we talked a lot about mindset yeah

9:32

and how it’s at the Crux of everything which it every I think everyone gets that but until you really see your life

9:39

transform through the power of it you may not what it is one of the things

9:44

that I’ve experienced and I’d love to hear your take on this is with every

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elevation there’s new limiting beliefs that come up that we get to work through

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I said get to work through very intentionally there not that we have to but that we get to work work through and

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with our vision like really following that big picture vision for our life there can also be very real very um

10:10

constraining feeling limiting beliefs around that b past experience what is your approach to that I love learning

10:17

different people’s approaches overcoming limiting beliefs I have things I do with myself and with my clients but I’d love

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to hear for someone like that where he’s ready to move from that you know 3 to 5

10:27

million to 25 million do business and there’s certainly things that have been in his Consciousness that have held him

10:33

back from doing that in the past um what does that what does that look like how do you work with clients through that

10:39

yeah such a great question and I I think the number one belief or limiting belief that comes up for people in this new

10:46

vision is if I stop doing what I’ve always been doing then I’m not going to

10:52

be able to keep producing what I’ve been producing and it’s that whole theory of like what got you here won’t get you

10:58

there but that’s hard for people to give up because they sit here going well look because I’ve

11:04

had my hand in every aspect of the business because everyone comes to me for the answers we’ve been able to go

11:09

from nothing to say five million so now you want me to stop doing all of that so

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that in itself is one of the biggest limiting beliefs that I think somebody

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you know kind of runs into when they start building and it’s about really breaking that down we have to separate

11:28

facts you know from stories is this really true do you believe this to be

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your truth or is it just your story and when we can really separate those out we can start working on a one by one and

11:41

then even going well let’s take one for example well if I don’t talk to the

11:46

customers all the time and I start giving them to other people the customers are going to think well where

11:52

am I what am I doing and and business isn’t the same okay so what would help

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with that transition what would make you feel comfortable with your clients now talking to your team instead and they

12:04

have the answers right and he’s like well if I knew that my team member was capable and if I heard him have

12:11

conversations and I felt confident okay great let’s do that and they had this rapport with them great how do we create

12:18

that well I could bring them in for lunch so it’s like we just start troubleshooting to break away those

12:23

limiting beliefs to where somebody then is like okay now I see it I’m good I can let go of that one and we can move on

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yes oh my gosh I love that so is this really true or is this your story because so many of the things that we

12:37

have accepted as our truths are not talk about Universal truths versus personal truths the stories that we’ve created so

12:46

that process of metacognition of literally thinking about what you’ve been thinking about and examining and

12:54

questioning I some of my clients know there’s this pair of earrings I love that say question every and when I hit a

12:59

certain goal I’m for myself because life really changed for me when I stopped just taking everything I thought for

13:05

granted started really asking is this actually true and if not what could be

13:11

true or what could what I want to create so um so I love that you know one of the

13:17

things Angie that I’ve been really enjoying in your book is there’s there’s

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so much here about values and I think it’s it’s it’s been so interesting

13:27

because like I said at the beginning I spent most of the first part of my life

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really I don’t know about you I think we’re kind of born knowing what a lot of these values are we’re born having all

13:40

of this lat po inside of us right and then we we start looking outside of us for approval for validation for what we

13:45

should value shouldn’t value so when I when I got curious again um and more

13:52

recent years of my life about what are my values and what do I care about life started getting a lot more fun and

13:58

magical and exciting and there is fulfillment and yet for somebody

14:05

listening you know maybe they’re deep in this work or maybe they’re not and maybe they have no idea what their values are

14:12

or why it matters what if someone has no idea and hasn’t stopped to really do

14:18

that inner work in a long time and has maybe pushed their real self down below

14:23

the surface how do we start to unearth what we value and get Clarity on that

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yeah the values are so important and I actually think it’s coming up more now which I absolutely love society as a

14:38

whole is moving from this like real hardcore performance you know all grit

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and keep your head down to Performance is also going to come from the inside work and the values so we’re seeing it

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more and more now but values if you think about yeah sometimes you go back

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to when you were a kid and you’re like what did I love to do because like you said they’re kind of within us and when

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we didn’t have the obligations of maybe college or relationship or kids we just

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walked right towards those values they were right there for us and we leaned into them so for anyone who’s listening

15:14

who’s maybe going I don’t even know what my values are go back to that and think about what used to bring you so much joy

15:20

I always say like full of memory I don’t care whether it’s from last year 10 20 years ago where it puts a huge smile on

15:27

your face it gives this warm fuzzy feeling in your belly and you’re like that brought me a lot of joy and let’s

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talk about it because your values are in that they just get pushed to the side

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when other things start to sprout up in our life and you know the one thing I always tell people is like it’s such a

15:45

myth or misconception to think that you can’t have your own values once you

15:50

start creating a family once you start taking on this job like you have to have room for your values if you want that

15:57

fulfillment if you want that joy in your life and if you want to have a compass to make those decisions that lead you in

16:03

the best way yeah what are some give us some examples because someone could hear values and they could think all sorts of

16:10

different things whether it’s character traits whether it’s attributes like I want time freedom I want Financial

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Freedom or is it kindness generosity like give us some examples of what someone’s of what you would Define a

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value as and and then we’ll go deeper from there yeah I like to look at values

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as almost like if you were going to take supplements every single day and you want to get them into your body to make

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you feel great what would you be consuming and so for me and I’ll share mine you know it’s a spiritual way of

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life it is time freedom and Financial Freedom it’s a healthy lifestyle it’s

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alone time it’s family time so those are some of my core values and they dictate

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all of my actions and my thoughts even when those limiting beliefs come up do

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does this align with my values so they’re really at the core of everything I do everything I think and they just

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guide me through work in life interesting do you think I’m curious do

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you think that we come in I ask like a little bit of an esoteric question here but do you think we come in to the

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planet like already pre-programmed with our values or are they things that change over the is it more something we

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discover within ourselves that’s always been there or is it something we develop and cultivate and change over the years like how does that work in your opinion

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I believe that we develop them you know based upon our environments based upon what we experience so if you grow up as

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a child and there are tons of kids in the neighborhood and you’re always outside playing right and that fills

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your cup then a social contact is probably going to be a high priority value for you if you had a really

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close-knit family and great experiences there and you had family dinners every night and you had family game nights

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Family Values are probably going to show up that you know as a high value of yours so I believe that they get

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developed and they also change right my values when I was you know single or

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before I came a mom were different what filled my cup at that point in time were different and then once I got married

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once I had kids I still have my values but they change a little bit yeah that’s

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a great Point that’s a great Point yeah just thinking back over my life like

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obviously as a mom now values are so different than they were than they were previously so those life events can

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really shift and and transform yeah yeah so if someone is they’re they’re

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thinking about all right what are the moments that light me up what was the core of those they’re thinking about

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what they liked when they were children and starting to tap into some of those those values there and they’re then

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they’re looking at their life and they’re like this there’s none of this in here right you hear the analogy of my ladders

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leaning against the wrong building that I’ve been building yes that’s scary to

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look around and think oh my gosh I got to make a lot of changes right or maybe we think we have to make a lot of

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changes maybe we don’t I don’t know but what’s the path what’s the next step that somebody needs to take if they

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realize their life their current life is not aligned with what their True Values are yeah take a breath first right like

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it’s we got this we can figure this out and you know I have I have like a

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worksheet and I’m happy to give it to you put in the show notes because it really simplifies it when you know your values and and I’ll share the values

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assessment too you can figure those out and then what I have clients do is we write the values down and then we go

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what does this look like so say you have a value of you’re like I really love

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alone time you know I’m with people all the time and my kids and my husband it’s like I used to love when I could just be

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alone for a a little bit okay well what does that look like for you oh it would be so great to like just even sit

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outside for 10 minutes if I could just read for 15 minutes like and then you’re like okay that’s what that looks like or

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if it’s like time freedom I just I would love to have time Freedom that’s important to me hey what does it look

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like it means not scheduling my calendar to every single minute of the day it

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means having a job that I get more than two weeks vacation you start to

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understand like how do you define it in your life because if you value a healthy lifestyle that might look different than

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the healthy lifestyle that I value right so we have to start defining it in our

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own terms Financial abundance that might mean to somebody hey I just want to have

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the freedom to go to Starbucks every day if I want and it might mean to somebody else like I want six cars know right or

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wrong but you have to Define it so you start to know how to lean into it oh my

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gosh that’s so good you know so many of the listeners and our community too and my clients there the the concept of

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abundance is very important to them and it’s powerful to them and I know for a long time in my life I was seeking I was

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seeking abundance financially but I didn’t know why I just knew for me it was about validation actually if I was

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really honest with myself it was when I hit this number then I’ll feel validated and so from that energy it was never

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enough it didn’t matter what it was it was never enough one of the things I’d actually love to hear your take on this

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something that was very transformational for me was understanding that at its core if we want abundance and our

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listeners are here they want to learn sales strategies business strategies things about money they want abundance

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what you really want is freedom right any any goal that we’re seeking at its root what we’re looking

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for is a feeling and if we are looking for greater Financial abundance really what we’re looking for is that that

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feeling of freedom and I used to think it was just Financial Freedom

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I’ve I’ve started to Define freedom in an even bigger way in my life and I’ve understood the core drive that I had for

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more money for so many years I think was also tied to a greater degree of emotional Freedom that I didn’t realize

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I was speaking so what I what I what I believe I want to hear your opinion whether you agree disagree I don’t care

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I’d really love to to have a conversation about it but I think at our core what we are all really seeking is

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that the the freedom to feel fully like ourselves like fully expressed and that

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we can do that and and navigate that way in our world and that’s that that core level of emotional Freedom that we’re

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actually seeking and of course money is a tool that we get to use to create

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experiences and and build the lives that we’re wanting to build but I when I tapped into this deeper level of Freedom

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that I was seeking in my life it things started to really shift and I I found that I felt far more abundant even

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before more money came in so would you speak to that a little bit it’s something it’s a concept I’ve been playing with and having fun with with my

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clients and I’d love to hear your take on it as well yeah it’s interesting because I run across people who don’t

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necessarily have that same desire right like Financial Freedom is not something

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that they seek out believe it or not and so I think you know whatever we’re

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looking for whether it’s Financial Freedom or abundance there’s definitely something underneath of it like saying

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you know for you maybe that emotional aspect for somebody else it may be you

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know the ability to have the time Freedom behind it um the security the

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stability so I think it means something different for everybody you know the way I grew up I wanted Financial Freedom and

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abundance because we just didn’t have it and I saw my mom work several jobs she

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you know worked way too much she never had any savings we never had money when

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we needed it it was always like when she got paid you know which prompted me to start working at 13 so I think everyone

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has a different kind of driver and experience as a child that kind of

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decides whether they need that Financial abundance and freedom or whether they don’t makes yeah that’s it’s this is the

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value right of coaching is literally like getting outside of the box and realizing that just because things in

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one way doesn’t mean that everyone does so I love that yeah I love it’s neat yeah some people are like you know I I’m

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happy if I have this much money and I can afford to live the way I do that’s

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fine by me and I find that when they do they value more like stability and security than they do the financial

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freedom and abundance yeah where for me that’s not a value of mine you know

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stability and security so it’s interesting I think it just really depends on what is important to you and

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how you grew up and sometimes on the other side like what scares you right if

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to not have that stability and security to be you know homeless to not have a

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place to live you know that may drive you the financial abundance or it may drive you to the stability and security

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yeah yeah but defining for yourself and really instead of just taking it for granted this is something we say to the

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members of our community too like just because you hear someone else is doing a certain amount per month or has a goal

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it’s so easy to go into comparison mode and say oh she’s doing this I should be

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setting my goal there too when really I I I believe money comes from having that

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strong purpose behind it as well and that if we’re just seeking more money to to um to again to feel safe again I

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think for I don’t know maybe I’m expanding my thinking here too maybe that is a good reason for some people to

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have it come but I I I think having the why behind it and and knowing what the purpose is um is really really powerful

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and having that in alignment with our values right is where we want to be where we want to be looking you know I W

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to ask I want to ask too um a couple question this is so I love this

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conversation I want to hear your take on the courage that it takes to live this

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way and how someone can tap into that because when we when we are brave enough

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to start really looking inside and maybe that’s a relationship that we haven’t cultivated for a long time it’s a

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antagonistic relationship right I think a lot of us can relate to having relationship of whether it’s judging

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ourselves or suppressing our desires or making ourselves wrong we’ve all got our own stuff right with our in our

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relationship um it takes it can take courage to look inside be willing

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to examine what’s really our heart and our Soul’s Calling versus what we’ve built

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up knowing that it may require making some changes and maybe some big changes

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too how does someone tap into that courage to start to really do that if

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they feel afraid to yeah now you got me sitting up belise I’m like this is a

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good one I I’m obsessed with this conversation because to me the whole

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reason why I do what I do is because I believe that people don’t understand how capable they are and that you can truly

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have whatever you want in your life like I I 100% believe that I see it again and

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again every single day from people who had nothing to people who have created everything they want yeah and that’s

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part of what you’re talking about here like the courage to actually do the inside work you know I’m on this Mission

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about relationship goals but not relationship goals as a a couple relationship goals with yourself because

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it’s where everything stems from but yet for most people your biggest adversary

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is usually yourself you know it’s like a constant battle you’re in your own way you have those limiting beliefs you’re

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super judgmental so it is about having the courage like you say to work on that

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relationship from the inside it’s going to be what allows you to really see what

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you want in your life and so anything to start a relationship with yourself is going to start moving the needle for you

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and allow you to see but and I know you know all of this and it’s such a great conversation about our subconscious mind

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and our conscious mind yeah and what we’re willing to look at is such an

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indication of what we’ll be able to create and when our conscious mind you

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know can’t see what our subconscious is kind of hiding from us and we don’t dig and do deeper work then we don’t set

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ourselves up for the opportunity to create that life and business that we dream of wow you just said something

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there this I think this is how you said it what we’re willing to look at is an indication of what we’re going to be

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able to create did I say that yeah say more about that that’s I’m really intrigued by that and I think on a

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surface level like I’ve got some thoughts around that but I want to hear your take on that I think that was so powerful yeah it’s almost like the whole

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theory of like ignorance is bliss and if we kind of close our eyes to things and

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we don’t dig into maybe the trauma maybe the finances that we’re not willing to

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look at maybe the relationships whatever is like hard to look at we’re not willing to see we have zero opportunity

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to do anything about that is what creates the

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opportunity and the ability to you know create what we want so we have to be

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willing to look look at it and that is usually really really painful for people

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whether it’s because they don’t want to deal with the pain that comes up they don’t want to deal with the potential of

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knowing what they could but not following through there’s many different layers to it yeah what came up for you

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when you heard that no I I just I’d never heard it said that way this is power of a good coach by the way you’re

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asking questions I love this I’m

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intrigued no I just I I I you know I’ve been thinking a lot in my own life lately and

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even working with my clients on the Su just the power of awareness and how our life expands as our awareness expands

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and even in my own life this year as I’ve set goals I’ve I’ve become aware of

30:48

parts of me that I think I wasn’t even aware of that we’re running under old limiting programs or fear conditioning

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and just noticing some resistance to those goals too so it’s like this is so interesting these things have been

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running without me even being consciously aware of it but now with awareness I’m going to get to go in and

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just like you were saying at the beginning ask is this story true is this

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true is this a story that I’ve been telling myself and start to examine and

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I don’t know about you but I’m having some moments right now with some areas of life where it’s like holy crap have

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I’ve been wrong about that my whole life I just thought normal for people to do

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this or for this to this Dynamic like no it’s not yeah necessarily normal so I

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think just that willingness to expand our awareness and

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look at the things that may feel painful have you read the book Letting Go by David H oh my gosh it’s so it’s

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been right next to years on my bookshelf um okay I’ve been studying it for about half a year now um recommended by by

31:56

someone else incredible in the industry and it’s um the kind of the basic idea

32:02

of it is like letting yourself sit in the emotions that that feel terrible and letting them move through your body

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instead of continuing to suppress them so I’ve been I’ve been doing that process and it’s really interesting

32:14

because you realize you’re so afraid of feeling the emotion that you avoid the whole thing but if you’re willing to sit

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in it and get curious about it and let it move through your body that actually you can you can alchemize it and what’s

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on the other side of that is in is intense Freedom or love or Joy or truth

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so anyway taking this down a bit of a different path here but but it came to

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mind um yeah that too so yeah and I guess just acknowledging too it does

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take courage to do thesis loving to yourself it does and I like to tell

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people like what you know when you really when that fear pops up you know or you’re lacking that courage ask

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yourself like what do you really have to lose you know what what are you really

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afraid of what what could happen here maybe you feel a little bit bad but on

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the flip side what do you have to gain and when you look at those two

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choices it’s usually an easier decision you know well I don’t want to feel bad

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but I could potentially shift my whole life and perspective on my finances or my relationships or my

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business I like those odds I love that that’s so powerful what do you have to

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gain it’s always about questions we ask ourselves right well it really is look

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at yeah I want to ask you I think one more question this is so

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good so powerful so we’re gonna tell everyone where to connect with you and um I know you’ve got a lot of exciting

33:47

things coming up as well but I want to you know the the core message of my

33:52

brand and and she sells and what we’re doing here is is to trust yourself which

33:58

may seem out of place with a brand about sales I think you know because we had a great conversation there’s a we talk

34:04

about a lot of things um that contribute to increased sales here but I I really want all of my clients

34:13

all of our listeners to learn to look inside and Trust themselves I think when we can do that when we tap back into

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that intuition that knowingness that Clarity on our values life transforms

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everything gets easier sales get easier relationships get easier following our path and our purpose gets easier and I’d

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love to hear in your own Journey what it look like for you to learn to trust yourself and maybe if

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your whole life it was easy that’s great and you can speak to that or maybe you had to learn how to reconnect with your

34:45

inner knowingness and intuition after disconnecting from for some period of time so but what would you say about

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your path there and and your take on trusting yourself and maybe how you’ve built that relationship over over the

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years the trust is huge and I love that this is kind of your question to throw

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in at the end here it’s big and it’s interesting because I think you can trust yourself on different levels for

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different things now I grew up in this alcoholic family where I became very independent at a young age so I had

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trust in myself to get things done like I would not fail like I would get things

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done and do what I need to do I had that trust in myself because I didn’t have it in anybody else so it was kind of like I

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had to but what I realized as I got older and when I really started to make this shift

35:31

is I didn’t have trust in myself to be who I authentically was yeah that trust

35:38

was missing yes I could get the job done but I wasn’t showing up as who I really

35:43

was I wasn’t allowing space for my own values and my own opinion of things you

35:49

know so there was a whole lot of trust missing in that direction and you just can’t succeed at the level you want and

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have that life you truly love without it as you’re talking about it it it translates to everything else in your

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life it’s part of the reason why I ended up creating what you have there my morning mindset Journal it goes back to

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this creating a relationship with yourself you know those relationship goals and if you think about who do you

36:14

trust most it’s somebody who you have a really great relationship with you don’t just throw trust around blindly to

36:21

people it’s that person who you’re like oh my gosh they’re always there for me they’re honest with me they don’t judge

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me you know they’re committed to me all these things that you would spill out about your best relationship but if you

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look at it do you have those same things with yourself W and most people say no

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do you always stay committed to yourself are you always honest with yourself do you know you follow through do you give

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yourself time no so how do you get that trust that you want so badly you start

36:52

showing up for yourself on a daily basis and creating this relationship and everyone said well how do you do that

36:58

and I created a journal around it so you could literally go through these seven prompts every single day to start

37:04

trusting yourself knowing who you are what you want in your life you know what you intended to commit whether you

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followed through or not it’s just that relationship that brings you to that self place of self trust wow oh my gosh

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that’s amazing that’s amazing yeah it’s just it’s when you um I love how you’re

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talking about the relationship goals right and building that Rel with yourself and again I think it’s a it’ll

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be this will be a little bit of a bigger like macro comment on things but I do think life is really about coming back

37:37

into that relationship with self and greater awareness of who we are on our journey and um and falling back in love

37:45

with ourselves if we fell out of it at some point so um that’s amazing yeah I

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I’ve been I’m reading the book first and then I’m going to dive into so excited start doing the journal and they’re both

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they’re beautiful too they’re so beautiful thank you um this was amazing thank you I love this conversation I

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know you have so much going on you’ve got an amazing podcast you’ve got a great event I know you just your heart

38:10

is here to speak and which is beautiful I’d love for you to tell just tell people more about where can they connect with you where they can where

38:16

can they learn more about you the book what you’re doing what you’ve got going on take a moment and share absolutely um

38:23

Angie wisdom life coach is really the best place to find me on Instagram on YouTube LinkedIn all all the different

38:30

social places and I really am on a mission to help people understand how capable they are to develop them so that

38:36

they can create the life and business that they want so I just put a ton of content out around that and you know I

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have my book out the non-negotiable U and the morning mindset Journal again just another way if you want to go on

38:47

that Journey if you want to create that relationship with yourself the tools are there for you um you can find them on my

38:52

website at Angie wisdom.com or Amazon and then you know we were talking earlier about the event that’s the big

38:59

thing right now I like to give people an opportunity to come in person and do

39:04

this work with some other great speakers and you know create a whole day so there’s an event March 9th in Orange

39:10

County California called get intentional and it’s going to be amazing absolutely amazing to have people hear from some

39:17

great speakers and coaches and pour into creating what they want in their life yeah Powerhouse lineup too like it’s not

39:24

just any other event I was looking at your line no yeah we’ve got Jen Gotle yeah Randy

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Garn Ben Newman Damon West it’s it’s a pretty fiery line up there yeah it’s

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amazing and you so it’s gonna be um yeah it’s GNA be incredible thank you so much

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for your time I’m so grateful for your relationship and for have gotten to know you better and get to share you with um

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my listeners I think this is it’s great timing at the start of the year and whenever anyone is listening to what you

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said earlier tapping back into our values is it’s a life process and it evolves and grows so

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I think it’s something that no matter where you are in Life or in the year when you’re listening to this you’re going to take so much from it so thank

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you so much Angie you’re amazing I appreciate this thanks Elyse thank you absolutely all right to you my listener

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wow I hope that you take this to heart I know I did and I so appreciate this work

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you can go connect with Angie online we’ll link everything in the show notes thank you as always for being a listener

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of She Sells Radio I’ll see you on our next episode bye for now